First, a brief report on a conversation I had last night. Present at this moment were two adult woman and a man. They know I do this site. One of the women said that she hated The Hardline because it was "coarse." Sports/guy radio is not going to be her first choice under any circumstances, but that was not the case with the other adult male, squarely in the Ticket demo wheelhouse. He mentioned that he'd been liking Norm's show lately. He also said that he had tried to listen to "the afternoon show." He tried to explain who he was listening to, without success, and I just asked him if it were afternoon or afternoon drive. Drive, he said. He said when he tried to listen there was almost no sports talk, but sometimes they tried to do political talk and it was so ignorant that he had to switch it off.
Second, I can hardly remember the last time a Confessor said anything positive about The Hardline. To judge from recent comments, some Confessors say they are drifting away and will drop it entirely if Danny leaves. Personally, I don't feel that way. I still enjoy the show. I like Corby. I don't mind Mike not having all that much on his mind. I could do without the political stuff myself -- the only thing worse than Musers talking politics is The Line talking politics -- but in general, my forays into Galloway and RaGE territory are always brief. Which is another way of saying, I guess, that The Line's competition is weak. But even so, it would take a pretty extraordinary presentation by another station to get me to switch.
Having said that, I do think The Hardline may be entering one of its dark periods. It is true, as Confessors say, that Mike is drifting into one of his disconnected phases, show prep is not apparent, the OverCorby is appearing more frequently. I will keep an eye on this trend and report, although I suspect you will all do so before I do.
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| Believe it or not, this is the only picture I could find on the Internet of Danny, Corby, and Mike together. I'm sure there are others, they just didn't come up in any searches. What makes it of particular interest is that I took it. Junior Miller's distinguished beak is entering the frame stage right. |
Danny.
The end of the comment string from the prior post reported on Robert Wilonsky's report that Danny and others have invested in the revival, if that's what it is, of the Twilight Lounge in Deep Ellum. (Link to Robert's Report) His specific use permit hearing is before the Dallas Plan Commission this week sometime. Confessors report there was no mention of it made on the show today, as predicted on this very blog. I would not expect to hear anything about it until Danny's departure was certain, which I continue to predict with something approaching zero conviction, and even then not until shortly before. There are lots of hoops to jump through before something as iffy as a Deep Ellum revival commits to open its doors, and the last thing The Line would want would be a lengthy lame duck period for arguably the most popular guy on the show.
And the point I offer for discussion is what that departure would mean for the show. I've always felt that Danny keeps the OverCorby under control and keeps the show moving. He's also very smart, very funny, very witty (not the same thing), and just an all around good listen. When either Mike or Corby is absent, the resulting show with Danny always gets good reviews. When Danny is away, the reviews are not so good. Would his departure send tremors through the CTO as they hand-wring over whether to replace him, and, if they do, with whom?
Fourth: Despite the evidence of the Confessor, the show is enjoying historical levels of popularity. Something about the show continues to resonate with the demographic, and isn't that the idea?
So consider this an Open Thread for some truly thoughtful 30,000-foot thoughts on The Hardline. Remember -- this site was founded in part as a reaction to what I call "The Corby Sux School of Ticket Journalism." If you're abandoning the show, that's fine and you are invited to tell us why, but I'm really more interested in why you think the show is still a smash hit in the metro.
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ReplyDeleteAh, Anonymous, always so helpful with your Fark.com ripoff.
ReplyDeleteHardline is clearly not as good as it used to be. I remember when Bob did an audition with Rhynes once after Hammer left. I was on some Ticket mailing list, so I received an email from Ticket management asking for feedback. As I recall, the questions were along the lines of (my very approximate paraphrase): Do you like the Hardline with just Corby, or with one of the Plus Ones we have had audition lately?
ReplyDeleteMy answer was that I like it just fine with increased Corby, no additions. But it was unfair to ask my opinion with such a small sample to work with.
In hindsight, I wish I had suggested Bob join the crew. Not that my one vote would have swayed anything, but I'd feel better about it in hindsight.
I usually don't have the opportunity to listen to the Hardline. I do listen to the Musers almost every morning though. It just feels like there is a lot more energy and fun with the Musers then the Hardline. It may be due to the fact I don't hear them as often but man, it just feels like a chore to listen to them. Like I said, it may be that I don't hear the Hardline as much, but they are sucking the life out of drive time.
ReplyDeleteThat pic was taken at Game 5 of the World Series in 2010, right Plainsman?
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ReplyDeleteNo, THL is not very good. It is stale. It is insular. There is an aspect of narcissism to it, as its hosts seem to not care one iota about the listeners' likes and dislikes. As can be evidenced in what's now become the joke that is very specifically aimed music talk. They don't seem to read or listen to others opinions on much anything they talk about if it's not music related. There doesn't appear to be a lot of sports watching going on. Docs about bands, cable channel original series, and assorted docs, TMZ, and movie watching seems to be the only they given a rip about outside pure music talk. There has been no change in the show since the addition of the Pool Party, which is What's on Mike's Mind for Corby and Danny. They're so lazy, even that's been for the most part abandoned. Basically they act and sound like women who happen to know something about sports and rock music. The show ought to be called The Metrosexual Line. It is a woefully underprepared show that has taken on the personality of one of its hosts: Corby Davidson. Superlative, overly confident, a know it all, lazy, disrespectful, and at times downright mean and vile.
Then why are they still juggernauts? Simple. Two reasons: 1. They have zero competition. And 2. The above description, unfortunately, applies to much of today's white, middle middle to upper middle to upper class males between the ages 25 - 54. Namely, the station's bread and butter demo. To the quick: they can relate.
Part II
ReplyDeleteI was a Day1P1 Hardline fan. It was my favorite show by far. Towards the end of Greggo's run, I started finding myself punching out for a bit to see what the FM rock stations were playing. Between Greggo's obvious spaciness and Corby's Corbiness, Mike's seeming handing over the show to Corby, and especially with Mike and Danny's bands (and now music talk began to get heavy) becoming an on air topic, THL began to not be "frozen dial radio" for me. Once Greggo was fired, it took a brief upswing. Corby toned it down and Mike seemed re energized. Until Mike made the "we don't owe you anything" statement. That hit me pretty hard. It was like "well, I guess I had it wrong, we P1s and the station aren't really a family, and you guys are certainly not regular guys like us." Like I said, it hurt.
Since that time THL has had its upticks and downturns. Mostly the latter. I kept hoping The FAN will put up some actual competition to go against them. I no longer hold out for such a thing. The FAN is dead set on throwing out the failed in every way RaGE. So much dough has been spent on that stupid show, I don't see it ever going away. Not until the format is changed. And who knows when or if that'll ever happen. Bottom line is that for me, THL keeps getting worse, and I listen much less often that I used to. It bums me out. I think if Danny leaves, it'll only get worse. While I do think that Danny helps perpetuate the music talk by exciting Mike with it, he is the best thing about that show now. Well, except when he or any of them talk politics. Good Lord, know yourselves, people. You are political dimwits. And I don't care which side of the aisle you subscribe to, their understanding of things is embarrassing for people in their age groups. Sadly, that's the norm nowadays. Anyway. If Jake steps in as producer, which I think seems probable, assuming Danny's leaving, I think we'll see an at first energized Mike who quickly comes down off the sugar high and realizes he's with one guy 20 years his junior and another 30 years his junior. Danny is an old soul kind of person. He "got" Mike and likes much of what Mike likes. Corby as some things in common with him, but not enough to survive a hip hop loving, Wake and Jake Space is Super Gay kind of youth infusion. Corby and Jake will relate to each other like Mike and Danny did. But Mike will be left out. Mike's getting into his mid 60s now. That sort of scene isn't fun for a guy like him. So yeah, if Danny departs, I see Mike hanging for another year and a half in order to hit the 20 year mark, then hanging up the headphones. And it won't come soon enough, as far as I'm concerned.
I'll post something good about the Hardline. The Snake-free episode on Friday was a blessing. It was great to hear Danny with Mike and to actually get Mike to open up and talk about Oak Cliff was interesting. Granted it wasn't ground breaking radio but you could have never had that with Corby there because then it drift into making fun of Mike's dad or whatever momentum changer Corby decided to introduce. I'll go one further, I could have even handled Donovan sitting in with them when he started out the segment not being able to find his wallet.
ReplyDeleteIn my small opinion, I think Dallas is starting to get know for The Ticket, so listening to sports radio is more popular than it used to be. Seeing how there's no competition, they get listeners by default.
ReplyDeleteI believe The Ticket has enough talent all around to mix up the crews somewhat and still put out a good product. I think Bob going to THL would be a good idea, and put him in a drive time role. As much as I hate to say it and as good as Gordo is for the Musers, maybe you could pair him with Dan and Donnie? I know there wouldn't be a good serious sports voice there, but they could all adapt and make it all listenable again.
I've pretty much given up on the Hardline outside of baseball season. I listen from 5:30 am through WTDS then it's off to KXT for music the rest of the way. I'll turn back for the concert calendar on Fridays just for the Reconsider Lounge. Why? Corby. The stuff he DOESN'T know about current events, how government works, etc. is just too frustrating. I can't take it any longer.
ReplyDeleteLast Friday, when I got in my truck to go home, it was still on The Ticket from the morning drive. Jake happened to be talking so I didn't switch immediately. I then soon learned that Corby was gone for the day, so I stayed with the Hardline for the entire 1 hour commute home. It was refreshing to have a change there.
When I do listen more during baseball season I stick around for the first segment after WTDS, hoping to hear the rundown for the afternoon so I can gauge when to tune back in for baseball stuff, mentally adjusting for how far behind they'll be by then. If the baseball stuff is a guest like Wash or JD, then I suck it up and stick it out straight through in order not to miss it.
Plainsman, I know you're a Corby fan and defender, and I can respect that I guess, but you asked for opinions and there's mine.
They like what they like and that's the bottom line. If you don't love baseball and a few select (old) rock bands, then you'll find yourself tuning out more often than not. I tune in to E-news and community quick hits though.
ReplyDeleteThey don't have to try--their competition is awful. They can fart and fall down and still double the ratings of the other two combined. Which is good for The Ticket overall in the present, but may bite them in the asses down the road.
ReplyDeleteEspecially if the Fail jettisons RaGE like they should (and like their piss-poor ratings deserve to be) and they find a show that is the opposite of Galloway, Hardline, and Richie--not arrogant to the point of off-putting.
But until they feel some pressure, Hardline is in a position where half-assing is succeeding.
Oh how I love Philosophical Gordo. "There are only so many combinations in music and mathematics. You have to repeat what's been done before." Like everything else intellectual, Gordon's superficial, barstool understanding of subjects is quite aMUSING (rock me!). Sorry, Gordo, but there's a marked difference between being influenced by an artist and purposely stealing another's song. And holy moly, I can't believe that a "public intellectual" such as yourself (whose only expertise is caricaturing others) hasn't, for example, heard of Prime or Fibonacci Numbers and their implications? It frustrates me to no end when I hear him talk out of his ass like this. Because he knows he's around people who have no idea, no interest, and believe him to be brilliant, he knows he can get away with it. There's nothing so icky as a pseudo intellectual. Please stick to imitations, Gordon.
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ReplyDeleteI think Gordo is much smarter than he appears on the radio. I think he considers it part of his comedy to hide how much he really knows. Occasionally he lets something slip that points to how much he really does know.
That being said, it's typically stuff about literature and language where I notice this trend. Maybe math just isn't his thing?
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Anonymous, 8:04
I've been surprised how much Jake adds to the Hardline. I didn't really expect them to take him seriously, but not only has he contributed extensively, he has actually saved a few segments because he was the only one there who knew what he was talking about. See the T'eo segment from the other day when Danny and Mike hadn't even heard the details (even though it had been front-and-center on the station ALL DAY LONG).
ReplyDeleteI'm down to about 2 segments of the Hardline per day before I punch out. There's just not too much there to sustain me.
10:03, not sure what your reasons are for thinking Gordo's smarter than he lets on. I go on what people actually say and do. He's not stupid by any stretch of the imagination. He is a smart guy. But he ventures into territories he clearly has only superficial, if even that, knowledge of. He reads some pop industry book or article in Discovery or the likes and espouses those opinions as facts and gives off the sense that he has some sort of expertise in the area. Or if not expertise, then a working understanding of the subject. He doesn't. Even in matters of language, etc. The things he has said on that subject (especially acquisition and neuro-related aspects) have either been no longer thought to be the case or are just flat out wrong-misunderstandings of the particular he's talking about. His whole sex drives everything pop psychology is antiquated and laughable. To both depth/psychoanalytical and behavioral psychologists and psychiatrists. It's the old thing: athletes, politicians, academics, Hollywood stars want to be rock stars; rocks stars, musicians, and comedians want to be intellectuals. The only true rock star intellectual I know of is Brian May of Queen. If you don't know his story, check it out. Look, Gordon's an awesome mimic, he's quick minded, and is funny as hell. I just wish he'd stop glibly stating things as fact that he has no real, working knowledge of. It's the very reason why so many dislike Corby. At least Corby talks about foolish things, crap that doesn't matter. The thing is, Gordo's interested in things that matter, which I find cool. But dammit, man, just say you're interested in it, have heard x, y, z, but really don't know. Cuz you don't.
ReplyDeleteHardline sucks, by the way.
Yes, Internet message board contributors are the only people who truly know everything about everything.
ReplyDeleteAlright. Okay. Look, Anti-Gordo Anon, it's the freakin' Morning Musers sports/guy talk radio for Pete's sake. It's a very small part of the overall presentation. It's a very small part of Gordo's body of work. I, like you, think it's neat that he's interested in big-picture ideas. So what if he doesn't read current journals of every discipline he touches upon? At least he's trying. I don't know what you do for a living, but I teach (gasp) philosophy at a local community college. I wish many of my students over the years were as naturally inquisitive (and with the self-motivation to read) as Gordo seems to be. Sure he's not a college student, but what's wrong with his wanting to discuss issues outside of sports?
ReplyDeleteLook, I can see where NPR Gordo can become a bit much from time to time. I must admit that I have found myself shaking my head at some of what he says. But I don't let it bother me. I can take the wee bit of well-intended but sometimes misguided philosophical opining...because the vast majority of what he does is gold.
By the way, THL is killing it right now with their Jason Garrett/Jerry Jones/play-calling talk. Killing it. This is THL I love. Corby, especially so.
5:47, you're a troll idiot who offers nothing other than hit and run snark without any substance. Go peddle your wares at Grubesismyleader, the Daily Kos, Huff Post, or Worldnet Daily.
ReplyDelete5:49, I'm in the research area of the psychology game. I appreciate your comments, and I think you make some points that I ought to bear in mind. But I can't give him a pass when he talks out of his rear end.
"(Jake) has actually saved a few segments because he was the only one there who knew what he was talking about."
ReplyDeleteNailed it.
Shaggy: Correct, Game 5. Sad Game 5.
ReplyDeleteTwo Point Conversion: A nice piece of prose, there. Insular! Yes! On the merits, you hit many nails on the head, but, while I don't consider myself any of those undesirable demo characteristics, I do still listen and enjoy. As I say, though, I recognize that The Line is retreating into one of its "you'll listen to anything, anyway, so why should we do any more than show up" seasons.
For some reason I can't see Bob on The Hardline as a Danny replacement, should one become necessary. Would it not interfere with his hockey-color career? And I have very reluctantly come to the realization that the people who say that Dan absolutely has to interrupt or Bob would drone on ceaselessly may be on to something. I don't see Mike, Corby, and Bob sharing duties. It would be a demotion for Corby. Unlikely.
The closest station voice and attitude to Danny's is Robert Wilonsky but, alas, he is unlikely to leave the position of Managing Editor of DallasNews.com to become a Hardline counterweight.
I like Jake Kemp quite a lot and always like it when he gets a featured role on weekends or weekdays. I absolutely do not understand the grief he takes from some Confessors, but I agree with Two Point that he might well throw The Line generationally out of whack.
At one point I proposed Scot Harrison as a replacement for Mike if he didn't re-up. How about him as another mature voice on the show, but one who can give and take with the yuks? I'm not sure, though, about any guy with host chops taking that job. (Danny has host chops, but started with THL.) I think that we sometimes forget how little Danny's voice is actually heard on The Line. He picks his spots and its because his contributions are so piquant and elegant that we tend to focus on what he says when he's on -- but there will be large stretches where he's off producing or doing whatever producers are supposed to do. At this point, Scot may be too high-profile for that kind of role. However -- it is indeed the case that Mike will move on sooner or later -- and having Scot there for a year or two before that happens might be a good thing for the long-term health of the show, and it exposes to the weekday audience who would be willing to accept him in another show if lineups changed for any other reason. Besides, I like him.
Mike has sounded . . . different to me lately. Voice a little weaker. Demeanor a little crankier. Still the most distinctive voice in Dallas radio, but there is a weariness there, an I'm-beaten-down-by-all-this-CBS-Cumulus-cross-selling-bilge-and-diversion-of-resources-to-less-successful-sister-stations melancholy. I'd love to get a gander at that contract he signed and no one told us about. (A reason to miss Richie Whitt's Observer journalism -- we knew about the contract before.)
All right, Two Point -- who the blazes are you? Any interest in a very attractive price on a nice little established blog catering to a bunch of great readers and listeners?
Danny better think long and hard before leaving the Ticket gig, especially to invest in a club, in Deep Ellum no less. I'm strictly a Gallaway guy these days. He cracks me up, but he goes to comercials ever time he blinks! I can't stand Richie and there is nobody in the history of the airwaves that has less than Corby!
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ReplyDeleteI'm just a Day1 P1 who enjoys your site, your insights, and your commenters' insights. Appreciate the offer, but I have neither the time nor the chops to maintain the current standards. I hope this doesn't mean you're planning on/searching for an exit/exit strategy.
Ditto to what Two Point Conversion said - hope you've abandoned those thoughts of abandoning us!
ReplyDeleteCan't corky buy a Gas Pipe or Gymboree franchise instead? Dammmitt!
ReplyDeleteI don't understand. What part of ANY of this makes ANY of you think this means Danny's leaving? Maybe I misread, but I don't see how this points to his end with THL. Many broadcasters (especially the underpaid)have side gigs and investments. Starting a new endeavor does not signal the end of another.
ReplyDeleteRe: THL doing well despite Corby dislike. This is something many listeners don't understand about radio. Likeability is big, but listenability is bigger. You don't have to like someone to give them 5 minutes of PPM (5 mins minimum gets credit for AQH in PPM). Those of you that punch out due to Corby probably give him more time than you think. Many (especially Texans) HATE Colin Cowherd. But as asanine as his opinions can be they're still usually completely unique. Thus, listners stay (even if they hate him) and get him ratings (nationally/cumulatively/overall). Now, Corby may not have many unique opinions, but he does have a VERY unique voice. It's that unique opinion/voice that gets the ratings. Also, note the fact that THL DEFINED sports talk for this city (as different from national/regional as it has always been).Listners dial it up on command due to heritage and branding. Not to mention, Ticket listeners (even the disatisfied ones) are about the most LOYAL (TSL) in the country. And in the end, there are also many that just plain like/love the Snake. So, plan on business as usual until a major shake-up comes along.
The point of the Danny conversation, Anon 1:04, is speculation. If Danny were to want to take a hands-on management approach, people are speculating that it would be a full-time gig. Those that have restaurant management experience have said that it's more than a full-time job. If he were to go that route, there's no way he'd be able to be at the station from 2 til 7 (if there is actually any show prep going on).
ReplyDeletePersonally, I think he's going to be an investor and use it as a place where he can be the house band whenever he wants, which means absolutely nothing in relation to his current situation. The point of this, though, is to discuss the possibilities. It's not that hard to grok.
It's more than a full-time job if you're one of few or the prime contributor. With this type of place, my guess is an on-site manager will be hired. There is definitely prep work going on, and he aint leaving cuz of this.
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ReplyDeleteYou obviously have never been a first time business owner. Besides, do you know the implications of what being the president of a company/business are? You can't have two full time jobs. As much as we'd like to believe it's all 4 star hotels, sniffing blow off of firm boobs, and free everything your heart desires with little actual work, producing a pm drive show is a full time job.
104 imperiously demands to know: "What part of ANY of this makes ANY of you think this means Danny's leaving?" It may be wrong to think that Danny will be leaving, but it's not crazy. And there are lots of "parts of this" that might make a reasonable person think that, if he's paying attention.
ReplyDeleteHe is listed as President in the filing.
Now, that may be strictly ceremonial. However, much as I admire Danny for his many talents, I am skeptical that his name, divorced from his active participation, will serve to reel in the customers, unless the joint is strictly limiting its appeal to the new-music crowd in Dallas.
If he isn't working there, he isn't getting paid there. Again, no offense intended, but I doubt that Danny is doing nothing more than licensing his image and identity to the place for a royalty.
Sure, absolutely: They can hire experienced saloon management and probably will do so. But if Danny isn't around, isn't an operating officer -- that's what a President typically is, as opposed to a CEO or Chairman -- then what's the point of making him the public face of this venture at the outset?
Look, I hope I'm wrong. I want Danny to stay with the Hardline until I personally die.
But I'm expecting an eventual departure.
And, as the constant birq points out -- it's speculation. This site speculates. It enjoys it. It's proud of it. It's wrong sometimes. But it has fun in the process and, once in awhile, a Ticket insider steps in to set us straight, and we like that, too.
104 imperiously demands to know: "What part of ANY of this makes ANY of you think this means Danny's leaving?" It may be wrong to think that Danny will be leaving, but it's not crazy. And there are lots of "parts of this" that might make a reasonable person think that, if he's paying attention.
ReplyDeleteHe is listed as President in the filing.
Now, that may be strictly ceremonial. However, much as I admire Danny for his many talents, I am skeptical that his name, divorced from his active participation, will serve to reel in the customers, unless the joint is strictly limiting its appeal to the new-music crowd in Dallas.
If he isn't working there, he isn't getting paid there. Again, no offense intended, but I doubt that Danny is doing nothing more than licensing his image and identity to the place for a royalty.
Sure, absolutely: They can hire experienced saloon management and probably will do so. But if Danny isn't around, isn't an operating officer -- that's what a President typically is, as opposed to a CEO or Chairman -- then what's the point of making him the public face of this venture at the outset?
Look, I hope I'm wrong. I want Danny to stay with the Hardline until I personally die.
But I'm expecting an eventual departure.
And, as the constant birq points out -- it's speculation. This site speculates. It enjoys it. It's proud of it. It's wrong sometimes. But it has fun in the process and, once in awhile, a Ticket insider steps in to set us straight, and we like that, too.
Apropos of nothing at all, vis a vis my comment on the earlier post:
ReplyDeleteI am listed as President on our little investment. So is Danny Balis on his investment. Yes, my situation is not a "club" type environment and yes, I am at the location a lot when my "real job" allows me.
Yes, it is a small town situation so name factor accounts for something. Again, our manager runs the day-to-day business better than I can.
However, strategic decisions are mine (management) and better made by the owners. This is what I see Danny doing.
Well, my buddy owns a bar that Danny frequents on a very very regular basis. I know what it took for my buddy's bar to succeed. It took at least 4 years of working his ass off day and night. From what I've been led to understand, so will Danny. Our Dark Cloud is hasta la vista sooner rather than later. He's just making sure everything is a go before the announcement is made. In other words he still has an out, that is, to stay at his current poduca dis show gig.
ReplyDeleteTo stay at his job in case things with the bar falls through, I meant to tag on. Bars and liquor licenses and permits are tricky things anywhere. Very tricky in Dallas. Trickier in Deep Ellum.
ReplyDeleteAnon 1:04: Come on man, get with the program. How dare you question the motives behind random speculation here. Besides, speculation is the most prevalent feature of a blog and commenters that supposedly love The Ticket, yet constantly bash the programming and (incorrectly and repeatedly) predict its demise. If you don't like it, go to another site blah blah blah...
ReplyDelete1124: Go troll somewhere else, dip s***. You've nothing worth while saying. You've resorted to commenting on your own comment. Pathetic. Go home little one. Come back when you've all grownsed up and can have a big boy discussion.
ReplyDeleteI still love the Hardline although I understand lot of the criticisms posted here. Stars hockey games interrupting the show has to rank among the most brain-dead programming moves in radio history. My biggest HL peeves: superlative Corby, "Dude" being used as a complete sentence, and Corby bringing OU into every college football discussion.
ReplyDeleteBob Wilonsky is radio Sominex! Belongs on NPR, not the Ticket.
ReplyDeleteIf you've ever stumbled upon JD Ryan and John Clay Wolfe on a Sat morning talking free form b/w car crap, it could be the best radio segs I've heard in DFW radio. I do not understand who those two haven't ditched that weekend car crap to give the real world a run for the money. Maybe not HL takeover, but they would slaughter RAGE and Russ. Your honor, I plead no contest. Give us a fresh choice for the long clerical breaks, please!
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