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Saturday, November 30, 2013
Those "Diamond Broker" Ads Would Be a Lot More Credible if Its Spokesman with the Odd British Accent Would Stop Pronouncing It "Jewlery"
You know, 209, that does sound like the plummy, flavorful accent of some Boers I have known. And of course, South Africa = diamonds. He does say "we" in the ad, but so might a paid pitchman be expected to say. I don't recall any other clues that he's the owner but entirely possible I've overlooked them.
Nevertheless, "jewlery" seems like an odd error for someone in the biz all those years.
That's a pretty common (and apparently accepted) pronunciation. That doesn't make it not annoying, but them's the apples.
Some people in the previous thread mentioned Corby's blowharding about the "stealing" of the ReproMan bit. I heard the segment, and the audio of the purloined bit, and I have to say their claim is preeeetty tenuous. It sounds more like an homage to Kevin Nealon's Mr Subliminal bit on SNL in the '90s. Come to think of it, one could easily accuse Cobbles from stealing ReproMan from Nealon. Bottom (bottom) line, it's not that funny of a bit after the 1st time, like most of Cobra's schtick.
Spot on, birq. So much of what Gordo and Corby do, humor wise, is from either old SNL or Mr. Show bits. Anyone who listened to Stern while he was on here, knows darn good and well that THL owe a great debt to him. Not just THL of the last 6 years, but from day one. Their whole F it we don't care attitude was and is straight out of the Stern playbook.
If anyone wants to get a feel for the Halcyon Days, check out the pics on Greggo's Twitter feed. Some early stuff. Real cool. Back when you would hear the words "spare" and "whip," and know you were amongst fellow Ticketheads.
Talking more about certain voices, lines of humor, and overall humor-demeanor. Don't believe me? Go check out the old Mr. Show. Much of The Rant stuff was riffing (by both hosts and callers) off of that era's SNL crew and Mr. Show. It also became a part of the weekday bits, both for Gordon and, at that time, bit monkey / pudussa dis show Corby. No one said everything is a reformulation of other stuff. But it sure as heck went on, in spades, during the formative years. And it was in those "takes" on others material that a lot of what we now think of as Gordo being Gordo or Corby being Corby arose. It was more than mere influence. Specially in the case of Mr. Show and Gordon. Same goes with the formative HL years and Stern. Rhynes has even admitted as much on several occasions over the years.
Homer call is, I believe, something Dan brought with him from Ohio. Regardless, it is his/BaD's. Of course The Ticket gets ripped off. No one is claiming otherwise. But let's not miss the forest for the trees here. By the by, the over-cusser bit is over-rated. To the nth degree, I might add. So is Faulkner.
Just wanna make sure I got this right: If someone makes a straight up boneheaded comment, or makes one because they misread the comment they're commenting on, it's sarcasm. OK. Got it. That's a neat little rhetorical trick to use when one makes a fool of themselves.
Anon 9:59, I'd like to welcome you to the Internet. Have a look around and let us know if you have any questions.
About bit stealing: To be clear, I wasn't accusing anyone on the Ticket of stealing bits, I was trying to make the point (not very well) that everything comes from somewhere and most things come from more than one place. Inspiration for the bit in question could have been taken from ReproMan or Nealon or a dozen other places. You don't accuse Kimmel of stealing from Carson or Parr -- they built the genre and he's just living in it. Same thing goes for everyone "stealing" from Stern. He took inspiration from other broadcasters, would-be shock jocks, comics, friends, what have you, honed it to a razor-sharp edge, and everyone else (including half the shows on the Ticket) is finding their own space in the genre.
birq, I cordially invite you to actually read what I wrote before you comment upon it. I was very specific about certain particulars-e.g., the taking from the Mr. Show; done in the same fashion as Dan Patrick's or the show, for example, in Houston that has stolen much of BaD's presentation. I also seconded your claim about influences.
So, if you take me up on my invitation, I can in turn welcome you to the world of critical or close reading.
If you do take up that invitation, then perhaps your snark might have bite; as it is, like Shaggy's cheap rhetorical tactics, it's nothing but weak posturing in lieu of substance.
I was referring to your surprise at sarcasm and cheap rhetorical tricks being used as defensive weapons. I love you, 9:59/2:22. You're my favorite of all the anons.
As I recall the genesis of the Homer call it was the announcer for the Sharks. If there is a reference for Dan bringing it down from Oh, well by all means enlighten us. No, the chords of music are not unique to any individual musician, it is all, neither the words of the writer, it's all about arrangement, placement and timing. But, if the THL is so effed up, if the Ticket is so washed up, why o why does SA and Htown see the need to copy them?
Yes, it all started when corky had the nerve to play that Jay Pharoah bit and claim it as his own, and claim that he was ripped off, and claim that he was the first to summit Mt. Everest. It's one thing to be influenced by others in the business, but when you have less than zero self awareness and lay claim to the most generic of 20yo bits, you deserve a Charles Haley-style mauling, let alone some harmless internet criticism.
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Isn't the spokesman the owner? And isn't he from South Africa. . . . . . . . .?
ReplyDeleteYou know, 209, that does sound like the plummy, flavorful accent of some Boers I have known. And of course, South Africa = diamonds. He does say "we" in the ad, but so might a paid pitchman be expected to say. I don't recall any other clues that he's the owner but entirely possible I've overlooked them.
ReplyDeleteNevertheless, "jewlery" seems like an odd error for someone in the biz all those years.
That last comment should have been addressed to "239," not "209."
ReplyDeleteThat's a pretty common (and apparently accepted) pronunciation. That doesn't make it not annoying, but them's the apples.
ReplyDeleteSome people in the previous thread mentioned Corby's blowharding about the "stealing" of the ReproMan bit. I heard the segment, and the audio of the purloined bit, and I have to say their claim is preeeetty tenuous. It sounds more like an homage to Kevin Nealon's Mr Subliminal bit on SNL in the '90s. Come to think of it, one could easily accuse Cobbles from stealing ReproMan from Nealon. Bottom (bottom) line, it's not that funny of a bit after the 1st time, like most of Cobra's schtick.
Spot on, birq. So much of what Gordo and Corby do, humor wise, is from either old SNL or Mr. Show bits. Anyone who listened to Stern while he was on here, knows darn good and well that THL owe a great debt to him. Not just THL of the last 6 years, but from day one. Their whole F it we don't care attitude was and is straight out of the Stern playbook.
ReplyDeleteIf anyone wants to get a feel for the Halcyon Days, check out the pics on Greggo's Twitter feed. Some early stuff. Real cool. Back when you would hear the words "spare" and "whip," and know you were amongst fellow Ticketheads.
jewlery
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yeah Homer call was right off of SNL. So was the over-cusser.
ReplyDeleteIf it is so easy to pull off then why doesn't it work elsewhere?
Yeah, stealing failed bits from the littlest of Tickets, right down to their name, that's how radio in other places is done. Ask Dan Patrick.
Talking more about certain voices, lines of humor, and overall humor-demeanor. Don't believe me? Go check out the old Mr. Show. Much of The Rant stuff was riffing (by both hosts and callers) off of that era's SNL crew and Mr. Show. It also became a part of the weekday bits, both for Gordon and, at that time, bit monkey / pudussa dis show Corby. No one said everything is a reformulation of other stuff. But it sure as heck went on, in spades, during the formative years. And it was in those "takes" on others material that a lot of what we now think of as Gordo being Gordo or Corby being Corby arose. It was more than mere influence. Specially in the case of Mr. Show and Gordon. Same goes with the formative HL years and Stern. Rhynes has even admitted as much on several occasions over the years.
ReplyDeleteHomer call is, I believe, something Dan brought with him from Ohio. Regardless, it is his/BaD's. Of course The Ticket gets ripped off. No one is claiming otherwise. But let's not miss the forest for the trees here. By the by, the over-cusser bit is over-rated. To the nth degree, I might add. So is Faulkner.
yeah I'd like to know how Homer Call was a stolen bit from SNL
ReplyDeleteah, just realized I wasn't wearing my sarcasm goggles Cactus...
ReplyDeleteJust wanna make sure I got this right: If someone makes a straight up boneheaded comment, or makes one because they misread the comment they're commenting on, it's sarcasm. OK. Got it. That's a neat little rhetorical trick to use when one makes a fool of themselves.
ReplyDeleteWhat is the name of the following two songs?
ReplyDeleteDisgruntled bikini girl song - they are also using it now in a station promo - has a girl saying "I find you very attractive".
Corby's pot smoking song - Duuuunh Duh
Corby's pot song is Peace Frog by The Doors
ReplyDeleteThe other is Would You...? by Touch and Go
ReplyDeleteAnon 9:59, I'd like to welcome you to the Internet. Have a look around and let us know if you have any questions.
ReplyDeleteAbout bit stealing: To be clear, I wasn't accusing anyone on the Ticket of stealing bits, I was trying to make the point (not very well) that everything comes from somewhere and most things come from more than one place. Inspiration for the bit in question could have been taken from ReproMan or Nealon or a dozen other places. You don't accuse Kimmel of stealing from Carson or Parr -- they built the genre and he's just living in it. Same thing goes for everyone "stealing" from Stern. He took inspiration from other broadcasters, would-be shock jocks, comics, friends, what have you, honed it to a razor-sharp edge, and everyone else (including half the shows on the Ticket) is finding their own space in the genre.
birq, I cordially invite you to actually read what I wrote before you comment upon it. I was very specific about certain particulars-e.g., the taking from the Mr. Show; done in the same fashion as Dan Patrick's or the show, for example, in Houston that has stolen much of BaD's presentation. I also seconded your claim about influences.
ReplyDeleteSo, if you take me up on my invitation, I can in turn welcome you to the world of critical or close reading.
If you do take up that invitation, then perhaps your snark might have bite; as it is, like Shaggy's cheap rhetorical tactics, it's nothing but weak posturing in lieu of substance.
We're having fun here, no?
ReplyDeleteI was referring to your surprise at sarcasm and cheap rhetorical tricks being used as defensive weapons. I love you, 9:59/2:22. You're my favorite of all the anons.
Please see my previous comment, birq. Specially the last part of it.
ReplyDeleteYou're not my favorite anymore.
ReplyDeleteAs the great Bruce Gilbert once said (while he was at The Fan) "There are no new ideas."
ReplyDeleteAs I recall the genesis of the Homer call it was the announcer for the Sharks. If there is a reference for Dan bringing it down from Oh, well by all means enlighten us.
ReplyDeleteNo, the chords of music are not unique to any individual musician, it is all, neither the words of the writer, it's all about arrangement, placement and timing.
But, if the THL is so effed up, if the Ticket is so washed up, why o why does SA and Htown see the need to copy them?
Yes, it all started when corky had the nerve to play that Jay Pharoah bit and claim it as his own, and claim that he was ripped off, and claim that he was the first to summit Mt. Everest. It's one thing to be influenced by others in the business, but when you have less than zero self awareness and lay claim to the most generic of 20yo bits, you deserve a Charles Haley-style mauling, let alone some harmless internet criticism.
ReplyDeleteDuring Muser crosstalk with Norm this morning, the comment was made that all of Gordon's bits are stolen.
ReplyDelete"Good artists copy. Great artists steal."
ReplyDelete-- Pablo Picasso
Anon Ron.....heard that too. George said it in a faux condescending way. Methinks the Musers MTC it up.
ReplyDeleteC'mon Pman, everyone knows Pablo Piccasso was a sham and a hack.
"The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources."
--Einstein
Every artist is a cannibal, every poet is a thief. All kill their inspiration and sing about their grief.
ReplyDeleteWho said that, Shaggy?
ReplyDeleteThat would be Mr. Paul Hewson, a/k/a Boono.
ReplyDeleteP1Rick