. . . so have the very safest of Happy New Years.
I've got a topic list of articles to get to, trying to figure out which ones engage me and might engage you.
Well, after a couple of weeks, what do we think about the DryDock offerings? The Shake Joint is pretty much a known quantity by this time and Jake and Sean are pretty polished content providers. In general, I thought it was very good with a few fairly insignificant lapses that I chalk up to differences in taste (mine and theirs) rather than any real deficiencies. Pretty nice little show they've got.
I really liked Jake and David Newbury on the Cowboys pregame, and I think we'll have them again tomorrow morning, although there seems to be some speculation that Jake might struggle for a timely arrival.
The wild card of the shows was Not a Podcast, their first lengthy stretch that I can recall, given the very plum PM Drive assignment, prime placement, long shows. There seems to be two schools of thought on the show and hosts. What do you all think? Particulars, please, and keep it civil. Want to hear from those who liked it, not just those who didn't.
Thanks for reading this year. Back soon.
We had a thoughtful comment from 815 Anonymous this morning (New Year's Eve) that might get overlooked since I put this post up a couple of hours later. So I'm reproducing it here. Breaking it up into several paragraphs for ease of reading:
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I think we tend to be getting cause and effect mixed up when it comes to TC being in NY for the holiday. Catman thinks about the holiday chemistry long in advance and how they all mesh together with Ticker guys being pretty expendable and relatively unimportant. Had Cat thought TC should co-host a show as a JV fill in he wouldn't have been allowed to schedule vacation during the 2 week dry dock period. It is clear they have no future plans for him other than Tickers and they clearly had no problem with him being gone. The writing should have been on the wall with regard to TC's status when the various JV shows came together in last couple of years such as TSJ, Not a Podcast, and even Ty Walker's led Country Strong with Eli Jordan. The ship has sailed IMO for any TC enhanced role on the little one.
There was a time 5 or 6 years ago when the Hardline was going to TC for some bits here or there and he seemed like an up and coming Yuck Monkey. I know he was upset when he didn't get the Board Op job for BaD and Hardline when Grubes stepped down. He was in the running but lost out to Mino. As you can see the Board Op, regardless of pay, becomes an integral part of the station in how they set the tone with drops etc. Mino has been good but I also know TC would have been excellent in this role.
One potential place for him would be when Norm retires you could pair TC, Jake and Dongovan together in the 10 to 12 spot. Would make for some good sports talk. Or alternatively if Mike retires at the same time as Norm you could go Jake and Donny from 10 to noon and then an ensemble group similar to G-Bag nation from noon to 3 consisting of Mike Siroise, Mike Marshall, Justin Montemayor. Then combine Bob and Dan with Corby and you will have a fun afternoon drive show.
His best bit was when he asked the Marlins pitcher questions disguised as elementary school questions. He was banned from the ballpark for asking what was his favorite sex position. It was pretty funny. Nothing funny since gonk and ragonk.
ReplyDeleteI could be completely wrong but didn't Jake get the board op job after Grubes left? I didn't think Mino joined until later.
ReplyDeleteRegardless of timeline, I'd say Mino has been better than good and is way ahead of anything TC would've done in that position. I consider board op to be Tier 2 because the art of the well-placed drop can catapult a segment from good to legendary. Jer and Mino are the real MVPs.
I think you might be correct Texas Hammer. I think he had it for short period then was promoted to the BaD producer opening up the spot which Mino filled. I think TC left for his short lived Tallahassee gig after not getting the afternoon board op job.
ReplyDeletePlains...ya know I love ya man, but Corby with BaD? Guys, trust me on this, none of the two A-team shows [Muser's and BaD] would welcome Corby as a permanent fixture. Now...you'll never hear them say it, but believe me, if Cat went to either of those two shows and said 'Hey, we're thinking of adding Corby to your roster'...it would be...'Can we shut the office door, cuz we need to talk!' They all like Corby, but they do not, I repeat, DO NOT...want Corby as an addition. I've read on here that some confessor's have enjoyed Corby and Donovan [I'll have to take your word for it; I don't listen to anything Corby these days]...well then, maybe Corby and Donovan 10 till 12. If BaD doesn't want drive time, and it sounds like they don't, bring in something totally new and different. Todays Hardline is as stagant as a three week unflushed commode.
ReplyDeleteSlinky, those weren't Pman's comments; he reposted a comment from the previous thread that he found interesting.
ReplyDeleteI don't think TC left for Florida because he didn't get the BaD board-op job. I think he left for Florida because he was offered a PD and pm drive host position. Some of you folks think too hard about these things--to the point where you no longer critically think.
This idea that TC's professional goal is to be board-op or producer couldn't be any more wrongheaded. The guy wants a full-time, on-air talent position. Go back and read his reddit AMA. Excepting Jer, Fernando, and a few other, thats what ALL support/JV/Tier 2-100 employees are shooting for as regards their career goal. Why else would they work the hours and for the little pay that they do? (Specially those who are leaving and have left their 20s.) I don't mean to be harsh, but for Pete's sake, people, use your noggin. Now the question of whether TC has the ability (voice, "take," attitude, etc.) to be on-air talent is another issue...
Justin and machine are not the future. Maybe it's just me but I can't stand their show. Thank God dry dock is over
ReplyDeleteI thought vacation ended today? Is Jan 2nd normally still dry dock?
ReplyDeleteIt's a holiday. Same reason day after Christmas was network programming.
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ReplyDeletethat AMA was done on his exit to Florida, do you think he's still has host goals? Honestly I think anyone in his current position has on-air goals but TC seems to have other interests like the podcast venture. Not saying you're wrong, just throwing it out there
I'm kinda missing rotten radio, or maybe a ticket/unticket pairing and doing the best of 2016...the unticket already has 40 hours of radio ready to go
ReplyDelete@boo. Agreed. It is always a pleasant surprise during holiday season to turn on the radio during errands and hear random snippets of rotten radio.
ReplyDeleteHere's what I've come away with after what seems like an eternity of Dry Dock. OK, first, this: I liked it better when Dry Dock wasn't so dry. That is, when the extended vacations were staggered within each show; thereby leaving at least part of the show intact; adding Plus Ones when needed. This year's Dry Dock was like the old days when you'd get Elf and whomever else everyday for 2-3 weeks. Now to my thoughts on Plainsman's query:
ReplyDeleteYea's and nay's re the JV shows, abilities, personalities, etc., aside. . . .two things struck me the most over this extended fill-in period:
1. Other than a rare nod here or there to "classic" Ticket lingo, bits, and whatnot, on the whole, these shows seem to purposely avoid trying to fit in with the Varsity programming. And it's really only Ty and to some extent Mike Sirois and Seabass that fly the Varsity "this is how The Ticket does things" flag. Meaning, they appear to be trying to create their own brand; that, while "Tickety" on a superficial level (i.e., mix of guy and sports talk), they're really not carrying on the company brand, so to speak. It's understandable. You want to stand out by representing your own age-demo/connect with the younger end of the listening audience. In so doing, the aim is to set yourself apart from THL, D&M, BaD, and IoNaD. You know, "we're the Pepsi Generation, spirit of today. . ." sort of thing. I get it. If I was in their shoes, I'd probably do the same. Which leads me to my second observation.
2. This entire Dry Dock has been one large affirmation of Rhyner's famed proclamation: "Once this is gone, there'll never be anything like it again, ever." I used to think he was speaking only to the end of the station itself. Now, whether he intended it as such or not, I've come to believe that he was talking about the Varsity lineup proper. Especially THL and D&M--though BaD has been on the station for so long, and smartly and quickly adopted "The Ticket Brand" from show/episode one. My point here is that the JV really in no meaningful way embody what made The Ticket, The Ticket. And frankly, I don't know if there's anyway they could; and therefore I don't assign any "blame" to them for it. So. . . .When the day comes, and it will, that Rhyner retires, one of The Musers moves on, or what have you not, this thing is gone. It might be The Ticket in name, but make no mistake about it, it'll no longer be The Ticket. And so, here comes the punchline, if you will: The Ticket will become pretty much indistinguishable from The FAN. Also during this Dry Dock, I listened, a lot. to The FAN. Their "Varsity" and JV sound exactly like Ticket JV members. The sole difference being there are no Dylan The Argumentative Teens or in your face with their politics actors. Other than that difference, the content and its presentation is identical.
Anon 8:11: I want you to be wrong, but I am sure you're right.
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ReplyDeleteDear 908: Please go away.
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Decency
Welcome back, Ticket proper. Please don't leave anytime soon.
ReplyDeletegood to see that the bitch plainsman is back in 2017. already deleting posts?
ReplyDeleteoh please don't talk bad about my boyfriend jake...
much like trump u r a whiney little bitch
Dan also had no idea who Debbie Reynolds was.
ReplyDelete443, what a sad existence yours is. A blog about a radio station gets under your skin so bad, that you actually expend energy posting silly, uncreative, and childish "burns." Your thoughts, both the manner in which you express them and in their content, evince a mind and psychological makeup that is stunted in growth, underdeveloped.
ReplyDeleteI ask you, please, seek counseling immediately.
Signed,
Future Adult You
Why do I do it? Why do I do it?! You know the feeling you get when you're thinking about going to the casino? "should I go...no, maybe I shouldn't! Yeah, I'll go...things will be different this time.' Well, you end up going, and getting your ass totally whipped, then feeling depressed and nauseous the rest of the night. That's the feeling I had after listening to about 5 minutes of Corby today. ESPN's DaK and the Cowboy firing line ended early due to Mavericks game. So I'm thinking 'I'll check out Ticket to see who's on...maybe the Podcast boys' Well, there he is, the yap master Corby, yapping about something he knows nothing about....ya know...the usual. There he is, completely ridiculing, and villainizing the police officer.
ReplyDeleteCould he have responding better? Of course, but lets look at what happened. First off, the pool was limited to tenants with two guest. There were about 30 people there with this one tenant, blasting bass thumping, ghetto foul languaged rap music around a bunch of young children. This under manned cop responds in what was about 102 degree weather. He was being verbally abused by a lot of these brats, including the little brat he took to the ground. Yes, he was out of line, but you have to look at the circumstances. This cop should not have been fired, unless he has a record of such actions. So now we've lost an officer, in what's already under manned police force, we send the message that you can totally disrespect our police officers. And lastly...and ohh so sadly...the poor little brat is sueing for 5 mill!
She's just been ohh so traumatized and violated....hopefully not as much as I felt after listening to 5 minutes of Corby!
Funny how 443 actually used paragraphs in his highly intelligent missive. Why bother?
ReplyDeleteMore from the “We can do what they do but they can’t do what we do” file.
ReplyDeleteI spent the last week with my lovely wife and son in the Northern Virginia, Maryland area. We did a fair amount of driving so I jumped around the dial trying to avoid political talk. I spent a fair amount of time on 106.7 The Fan. While I really enjoyed witnessing the pain of Redskins fans the day after their loss to the Giants, it was generally a whipping of the highest order.
I see a lot of back and forth between criticism and praise of the hosts. Some get more attention than others and for the most part, the lightning rod effect is warranted. It’s easy reading these posts to forget just how spoiled we are with the Little One. I have definitely become more of an a la carte listener as I’ve gotten older. Some of the hosts that I used to identify with have lost me. Some of the up and comers have caught my ear.
I honestly don’t listen to any other sports talk in the area…it’s just an immediate punch out to XM music. After the extended dry dock, I realized that when the turnover begins at the top, it won’t be my KTCK anymore but they’ll be fine. If it’s anything like what I listened to during my travels, the Ticket at 70% will still run circles around the competition.
@ellislives
ReplyDeleteAgreed...take a trip around this great country of ours and listen to sports talk...to me personally, none of them hold a candle to The Ticket, even the JV.
Unless you're looking for pure sports talk, but why would you do that?
Side note: I'm still secretly hoping that The Ticket installs a non-delay audio feed, for a nominal fee, gotta diversify that portfolio cumulus...but given their other technical/financial issues I don't think that's possible.
It's because it's the sports talk you know. This might come as a shock to some of you, but there are many many who move here from other areas of the country and just don't get The Ticket. And never do.
ReplyDeleteI still have over 100 hours of podcasts which I have yet to put a dent into over drydock, even without listening to the JV. If they are on, I am out.
ReplyDelete@Slinky,
I avoided listening yesterday solely because I did not want to hear multiple shows talk about the celeb deaths with misinformation and HSOs on college football which are even worse.
@ellislives,
Keep in mind that The Fan leads The Ticket in the 18-34 demographic.
@8:34AM,
Look at Junior's Instagram page. "We" meant his cycling friends.
I've found the host responses to the long drydock interesting. Bob, Dan, and Corby all returned and commented on how it was too long and they were annoyed at not being on air when important Cowboys things were happening. Meanwhile, Junes, George, and Rhynes all indicated they would've loved even more time off...
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ReplyDeleteJunes cycling trip was to Tucson before Christmas. I don't think he spent all three weeks of his vacation with those guys. At least I hope not.
Not a prediction, but a hold onto your butts......2017 is Rhyner's last at The Ticket.
ReplyDeleteTake it to the bank. That is all. Carry on.
Not what I'm hearing, Nsydr. I'm hearing Mike R is re-upping for a new full term, which I assume is three years.
ReplyDeleteYou can't take mine to the bank, but I have, say, 70% confidence in this radio insider as a source.
Also hearing that Norm is re-upping on similar terms.
Don't know anything about timing or other terms on either one.
Source is somewhat in the rear-view mirror at this point, so it's possible things could have fallen through between his/her initial lowdown to me and now. But if history is a guide -- and, as the years go by, someday it will surely cease to be -- predictions of big imminent changes at The Ticket have proven false every time.
@ DA and Anon 12:18
ReplyDeleteThis is exactly why I wrote that as things move forward, this station will continue to fly their call letters but it won't be “my” Ticket. I am actually fine with that. I need to start listening to more Classic Rock (which shockingly now includes U2) and beating my hand against the couch listening to Bill O’Reilly and Rachel Maddow
“I’m a man!!! I’m 40!!!”
I grew up listening to Norm doing color on HSE Rangers games with my grandfather on his Zenith console and listening to George do reports on KRLD, then at Texas Stadium on Thanksgivings. I am a Rant P1 (back when they were JV), seen Danny playing bass with Sorta, remember the E-Brake HOFer Craig Rosengarden long before theTee-Box.
I will never try to explain the Ticket to the uncleansed. I tried to setup a “Chris Chris” and an “Ed Carter” bit to my in-laws over the break. Both fell incredibly flat.
I listened to the Ticket with my father a few years before I got my license. He is now a Norm only guy. But that’s because he’s 65. I’ve never seen my pop more enraged than having to listen to Dale…and they’re the same age.To each his own. I may not listen to the Marconi award winning sports radio station of the Metroplex in 10 years but plenty of people will.
Damn, your dad was 15 when you were born. Syre you aren't East Texas P1?
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ReplyDeleteI believe in the early days of streaming the content was uncensored. "Hello, internet" was not uncommon back then when something was dumped.
A live feed with not commercials and off audio would be great.
BTW: On your trip was most of the sports talk caller driven or host driven like the ticket?
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Who spends more money on your advertiser's product, the 18-34 crowd or the 35-54 group? which would you rather have driving your ratings and TSL?
@Gopher
DeleteOh I remember those days, and the commercials were replaced with rotten radio which was glorious!
The other stations were definitely caller driven for the most part with a smattering of host driven content, but there was nothing outside of sports, all sports all the time, it was exhausting. It's the outside of sports thing or sports adjacent topics that interest me most about the ticket, outside of superlative hardline I feel like I can rely on them to give me the basics of something like the Arlington ballpark vote, and then do a little of the research online if it interests me enough.
Being squarely in the latter part of your younger demo @ 31 I understand what your saying. But if your only advertising foundation repair, genostim, Low T Clinics, and hair loss clinics I don't think you'll ever reach me and my demo...but the JV speaks to my age and I doubt people in my demographic go to blogspot to express their opinions (Sorry Pman)
Sweet mercy, please forgive all the your vs you're issues in my reply.
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ReplyDeleteI invite you to not only stop listening to the Ticket, but go somewhere else for your sports talk in our estimation.