A home for those who love almost everything about The Ticket (1310 AM, 96.7 FM, Dallas-Fort Worth), and who would like to discuss -- respectfully and fondly -- their thoughts on how (and whether) to eliminate the "almost."
Several years ago, I called upon Ticket management to stop running Kars4Kids ads. Of course, they should be banned for their aesthetic awfulness alone – Matt McClearin’s sing-along version (delightfully sarcastic) didn’t help – but my argument was that the ads were misleading. I mean, like, they didn’t actually identify, you know, a charity.
A little internet digging revealed that the money went to an organization that benefited a small (at least at the time) group Jewish students for a summer camp experience, as I recall. (I can’t find the article I wrote, so I may be misremembering what I found at the time.) Nothing wrong with that, nothing wrong about it being a charity – but the ads left the impression that the assistance to kids would be to needy kids generally and did not disclose that the charitable benefit would be limited to a very ethnically/religiously narrow and geographically tiny group.
Now, a California court has put an end to the ads in California.
“After [the plaintiff made his junker] donation, he learned that the funds went to Oorah, a company dedicated to Jewish heritage and summer camps in New York and New Jersey. In a testimony that the judge described as ‘strikingly candid,’ the company's chief operating officer, Esti Landau, said her organization does not primarily focus on helping economically disadvantaged kids, according to court documents.
“She testified that Kars4Kids is the primary funding source for Oorah. She admitted that the donations funded "matchmaking programs" for young adults and trips to Israel for 17 and 18-year-olds, according to court documents. In her testimony, she added that the company spent $437,000 on Middle East outreach and used the funds to purchase a $16.5 million building in Israel.”
The charity can only run ads in California if it includes an "express, audible disclosure" of its religious affiliation, the geographic destination of its funds, and the true age range of its beneficiaries. Also: the ads may not feature children.
Pennsylvania, Texas, Oregon, and Minnesota have also taken action against Kars4Kids, but I think only Pennsylvania has imposed disclosure requirements.
I’m not sure how the prohibition would work in the case of a nationally-broadcast ad like the one currently running on the teevee featuring those not-very-Jewish-looking kids -- no 17- or-18 year-olds there -- pretending to play their pink instruments, or ads appearing on the internet.
But it will be easy to enforce with respect to local radio and TV ads.
Accordingly, I repeat my high-minded request that Ticket management no longer accept ads for Kars4Kids absent the kind of disclosures California now requires.
Is this the same outfit that Hansen used to do adds for “write off the car, not the kids” or is that a different outfit? I recall there was some litigation over that outfit & how Hansen’s kid was benefiting financially from it
Same name, but that outfit called itself "CarsForKids," did not use the numeral "4" and spelled "cars" with a "C". Don't know about Hansen's offspring. Anyone have better info, please advise.
My recollection is DallasCan! Was paying Hansen’s son for advertising work of questionable value. Lawsuits ensued.
Too lazy to get the actual article or court filings, but this is from Wikipedia:
Since 1989, Hansen has been in charge of the Dale Hansen Golf Classic.[24] In 1990, Hansen joined with the Dallas Can! schools. However, he and The Hansen Foundation split from the 16-year partnership, as a result of lawsuits against each side totaling almost $700,000.[25] Starting in 2007–2008, The Hansen Foundation sponsors $100,000 of scholarships for University of North Texas students, with the money coming from the annual Dale Hansen Golf Classic.[26]
The Hansen thing was/still is legit. Wife and I have donated 3 cars to them over the years. They come to you, pick up the vehicle, and have all the paperwork in-hand. Tax write off was clear cut, no bulsh.
So on the new CdS State of DFW radio/Ticket pod, Danny admits to once rigging a giveaway at TT for a buddy. Said giveaway was worth thousands in audio-video products. That says a lot about him. It comports, it tracks, to the Danny that is emerging from this long form, public self-help session. It explains much and it's rather unattractive.
Wonder if TSS has been tuning in to 9-1 these past 2 days to hear compelling, funny, high energy sports talk and the such....or if they have been avoiding it like the plague in order to keep up the ruse to themselves that they actually put together a pretty good little show.
well, dunno about that. but i do know that their reddit has been morphing into ticket reddit --i.e., 90% negative- over the past 8-9 months. i also noticed the data. they'e been steadily losing subs for over a year. then there's the fact that blake had to seek outside employment to supplement his income. i guess paying one or a few employees in a tiny startup with a tiny income generating engine isn't as easy IRL as it is to talk about it -- at least in an even short to mid-term fiscal fashion, much less a sustainable model and what that entails. so yeah. business is a hard, nasty, brutish and often short business. but take care, because danny and sirois have all the answers. sure do. just ask them. and their track record speaks volumes.
Dan after 25 years or Dan when he started? I think those are 2 very different numbers. So yeah I think what Jake started at and what Mino/Sean/matt started out were probably the same. Matt probably higher, he had a proven ratings history here and in other markets that all the rest including Jake didn’t have. Furthermore, Cumulus paid their insurance, 401k, SS and Medicare etc. as a business owner that now comes out of your own pocket. I know TT staff get ratings bonuses. Again if TDZ gets those it’s moving from one pocket to another. Plus appearence fees. Live spot fees. Shit adds up. I’ve always thought this whole thing because Dan got butt hurt when they moved Bob, because Bennett views him as 2nd tier talent. And Jake got oissed that he wasn’t making 1st tier money in his 2nd year on the air. Jake could have been the next Norm, on air in this market for decades. But he’s never setting another radio job in this market. C
keep a good thought today for the seacow...our fearless leader may have to have his appendix removed..forming prayer circle shortly..can someone else handle the candlelight vigil
This may be a stupid question but I will ask anyway. In the last two weeks Corby had two segments that I thought were really well produced and informative.
1.) The worst spin-offs ever. IIRC the top worst was the Brady Bunch spinoff. But he had the theme songs for each and background information and was able to make cogent points on each of these. (As an aside, this was all shows from 20-30 years ago. Don't know how this was relatable to the younger demographic.)
2.) The Paul "Bear" Bryant of playing USC with the goal to integrating college football. Including the statement on segregation for Gov George Wallace at his '63 inaugural address. Also other references that were very informative as I had no idea this was a "thing".
So my question. Does Corby do this all on his own? For the integration conversation he stated a couple of times: "went down the rabbit hole". So if he does it all on his own, a great shout out to him as I thought these segments were excellent.
Even if he relies on others for help, no problem there. In my work I provide the people that work for me the structure on what I am working on and depend on them to flesh it out and get me answers.
Either way, both of these were stay-in-the-car-in-the-driveway to finish listening before I went into the house. (To the woman that lives with me for free.)
ssssshhhhhh. don't say it out loud. the hive doesn't like it. but, yeah, corbles is actually very well liked amongst his coworkers and the overwhelming majority of listeners. contrary to the caricature, he is prepared and cares about the product put out.
Are they really buddies? I remember them talking about it once, they were like 2 years apart, I think it was Cat knew Corby’s sister cause they were the same grade, but Cat and Corby weren’t friends in HS.
Ain't NO WAY Junior and George are staying until 29/30. They will announce before the start of the football season in 2027 that they will be retiring on or around June 1st 2028. You heard it here first. They will continue to do pods after their retirement from daily radio. chirp chirp chirp chirp chirp chirp
Really disliked the detailed retelling of the 2011 championship on the HL recently. Also musing if Jub and Junes checked out in 2029/30 and Gordo stays on.
What TYIND said. Love the 2011 team, and we all love Dirk, but, yeah, going play by play like it happened last night was not good radio. I know we're in a sports lull (kinda), but geesh.
Ain't NO WAY Junior and George are staying until 29/30. They will announce before the start of the football season in 2027 that they will be retiring on or around June 1st 2028. You heard it here first. They will continue to do pods after their retirement from daily radio. chirp chirp chirp chirp chirp chirp
Don’t care for it either. Feel like another show, I would assume not the hardline but I can’t remember, did it last year too. Also a thing where Mavs get a pass compared to cowboys. If a show did a recount of cowboys last superbowl it’d get made fun of big time. But with Mavs it’s ok.
I mean each show did multiple segments on the Netflix documentary of the last time the Cowboys were relevant in the 90s. They've also recounted Game 6 with the Rangers every few years. Bob is doing an entire Twitter timeline of the 76 Cowboys. I have no issue with them going back to that Finals because it was one of the most memorable recent moments in DFW sports history and a sports hero got his ring. There's really no other franchise right that's worth talking about. All are fairly mediocre or can't get over the hump (Stars).
Several years ago, I called upon Ticket management to stop running Kars4Kids ads. Of course, they should be banned for their aesthetic awfulness alone – Matt McClearin’s sing-along version (delightfully sarcastic) didn’t help – but my argument was that the ads were misleading. I mean, like, they didn’t actually identify, you know, a charity.
ReplyDeleteA little internet digging revealed that the money went to an organization that benefited a small (at least at the time) group Jewish students for a summer camp experience, as I recall. (I can’t find the article I wrote, so I may be misremembering what I found at the time.) Nothing wrong with that, nothing wrong about it being a charity – but the ads left the impression that the assistance to kids would be to needy kids generally and did not disclose that the charitable benefit would be limited to a very ethnically/religiously narrow and geographically tiny group.
Now, a California court has put an end to the ads in California.
“After [the plaintiff made his junker] donation, he learned that the funds went to Oorah, a company dedicated to Jewish heritage and summer camps in New York and New Jersey. In a testimony that the judge described as ‘strikingly candid,’ the company's chief operating officer, Esti Landau, said her organization does not primarily focus on helping economically disadvantaged kids, according to court documents.
“She testified that Kars4Kids is the primary funding source for Oorah. She admitted that the donations funded "matchmaking programs" for young adults and trips to Israel for 17 and 18-year-olds, according to court documents. In her testimony, she added that the company spent $437,000 on Middle East outreach and used the funds to purchase a $16.5 million building in Israel.”
https://www.cbsnews.com/losangeles/news/kars4kids-ads-banned-california-false-advertising/
The charity can only run ads in California if it includes an "express, audible disclosure" of its religious affiliation, the geographic destination of its funds, and the true age range of its beneficiaries. Also: the ads may not feature children.
Pennsylvania, Texas, Oregon, and Minnesota have also taken action against Kars4Kids, but I think only Pennsylvania has imposed disclosure requirements.
I’m not sure how the prohibition would work in the case of a nationally-broadcast ad like the one currently running on the teevee featuring those not-very-Jewish-looking kids -- no 17- or-18 year-olds there -- pretending to play their pink instruments, or ads appearing on the internet.
But it will be easy to enforce with respect to local radio and TV ads.
Accordingly, I repeat my high-minded request that Ticket management no longer accept ads for Kars4Kids absent the kind of disclosures California now requires.
When the advertisement put out the call for land donations I began to suspect it was operated by you know who
DeleteScruh in the previous thread is still butt hurt he couldn't cut the mustard when he had his chance. Ouchie
ReplyDeleteIs this the same outfit that Hansen used to do adds for “write off the car, not the kids” or is that a different outfit? I recall there was some litigation over that outfit & how Hansen’s kid was benefiting financially from it
ReplyDeleteSame name, but that outfit called itself "CarsForKids," did not use the numeral "4" and spelled "cars" with a "C". Don't know about Hansen's offspring. Anyone have better info, please advise.
ReplyDeleteMy recollection is DallasCan! Was paying Hansen’s son for advertising work of questionable value. Lawsuits ensued.
DeleteToo lazy to get the actual article or court filings, but this is from Wikipedia:
Since 1989, Hansen has been in charge of the Dale Hansen Golf Classic.[24] In 1990, Hansen joined with the Dallas Can! schools. However, he and The Hansen Foundation split from the 16-year partnership, as a result of lawsuits against each side totaling almost $700,000.[25] Starting in 2007–2008, The Hansen Foundation sponsors $100,000 of scholarships for University of North Texas students, with the money coming from the annual Dale Hansen Golf Classic.[26]
Did it changeeeeee your life?
DeleteThe Hansen thing was/still is legit. Wife and I have donated 3 cars to them over the years. They come to you, pick up the vehicle, and have all the paperwork in-hand. Tax write off was clear cut, no bulsh.
ReplyDeleteHey diddle diddle put yer kitty in the middle of the swing like you didn't care.
ReplyDeleteSo on the new CdS State of DFW radio/Ticket pod, Danny admits to once rigging a giveaway at TT for a buddy. Said giveaway was worth thousands in audio-video products. That says a lot about him. It comports, it tracks, to the Danny that is emerging from this long form, public self-help session. It explains much and it's rather unattractive.
ReplyDeleteThis clip of a ginger is for you Plainsman. Hope you enjoy https://x.com/polarna/status/2056362544554488018?s=20
ReplyDeleteAI slop
DeleteWonder if TSS has been tuning in to 9-1 these past 2 days to hear compelling, funny, high energy sports talk and the such....or if they have been avoiding it like the plague in order to keep up the ruse to themselves that they actually put together a pretty good little show.
ReplyDeleteThey do put on a pretty good little dadgum show, Ms Folksy.
DeleteStill looking for a job in the industry sre we? Dambuh.
It's about to go down. Grip it tight, Hive.
ReplyDeletewell, dunno about that. but i do know that their reddit has been morphing into ticket reddit --i.e., 90% negative- over the past 8-9 months. i also noticed the data. they'e been steadily losing subs for over a year. then there's the fact that blake had to seek outside employment to supplement his income. i guess paying one or a few employees in a tiny startup with a tiny income generating engine isn't as easy IRL as it is to talk about it -- at least in an even short to mid-term fiscal fashion, much less a sustainable model and what that entails. so yeah. business is a hard, nasty, brutish and often short business. but take care, because danny and sirois have all the answers. sure do. just ask them. and their track record speaks volumes.
DeleteBlake makes more in DZ salary than several full time Ticket hosts. He isn’t forced to find additional gigs. He’s a grinder and always has been
ReplyDeleteNo he doesn't. Neither does Dan. Neither Jake. Stop making shit up.
DeleteYou think Dan and Jake don't make more than Mino or Sean or McClearin?
DeleteDan after 25 years or Dan when he started? I think those are 2 very different numbers. So yeah I think what Jake started at and what Mino/Sean/matt started out were probably the same. Matt probably higher, he had a proven ratings history here and in other markets that all the rest including Jake didn’t have.
DeleteFurthermore, Cumulus paid their insurance, 401k, SS and Medicare etc. as a business owner that now comes out of your own pocket. I know TT staff get ratings bonuses. Again if TDZ gets those it’s moving from one pocket to another. Plus appearence fees. Live spot fees. Shit adds up.
I’ve always thought this whole thing because Dan got butt hurt when they moved Bob, because Bennett views him as 2nd tier talent. And Jake got oissed that he wasn’t making 1st tier money in his 2nd year on the air. Jake could have been the next Norm, on air in this market for decades. But he’s never setting another radio job in this market.
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ReplyDeletedude goes hard truthin.
Deletekeep a good thought today for the seacow...our fearless leader may have to have his appendix removed..forming prayer circle shortly..can someone else handle the candlelight vigil
ReplyDeleteDambuh. Godspeed to him. But he ain't my leader, so speak for yourself.
DeleteLadies Be Trippin': The Jeff Catlin Passion Project
ReplyDeletesucked it lasted only one 'sode. fond member berries of boppin the bishop to it.
DeleteYou bop the bishop to audio? How sad
Deleteoooooh. you really stick it to me with that one. i just finished, thinking about how easy it is to live rent free in your head. giggle. splat.
ReplyDeleteThis may be a stupid question but I will ask anyway. In the last two weeks Corby had two segments that I thought were really well produced and informative.
ReplyDelete1.) The worst spin-offs ever. IIRC the top worst was the Brady Bunch spinoff. But he had the theme songs for each and background information and was able to make cogent points on each of these. (As an aside, this was all shows from 20-30 years ago. Don't know how this was relatable to the younger demographic.)
2.) The Paul "Bear" Bryant of playing USC with the goal to integrating college football. Including the statement on segregation for Gov George Wallace at his '63 inaugural address. Also other references that were very informative as I had no idea this was a "thing".
So my question. Does Corby do this all on his own? For the integration conversation he stated a couple of times: "went down the rabbit hole". So if he does it all on his own, a great shout out to him as I thought these segments were excellent.
Even if he relies on others for help, no problem there. In my work I provide the people that work for me the structure on what I am working on and depend on them to flesh it out and get me answers.
Either way, both of these were stay-in-the-car-in-the-driveway to finish listening before I went into the house. (To the woman that lives with me for free.)
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ssssshhhhhh. don't say it out loud. the hive doesn't like it. but, yeah, corbles is actually very well liked amongst his coworkers and the overwhelming majority of listeners. contrary to the caricature, he is prepared and cares about the product put out.
DeleteMeh.
Deletethat's all you got, scruh? lazy hive.
DeleteHardline has been incredibly late all week. You think Cat will bring his buddy Corby into his office and read him the riot act?
ReplyDeleteNo one is gonna bite, scruh.
DeleteYou just did
Deleteno bite, try hard.. just a custom tailored psa for ya.
DeleteAre they really buddies? I remember them talking about it once, they were like 2 years apart, I think it was Cat knew Corby’s sister cause they were the same grade, but Cat and Corby weren’t friends in HS.
DeleteTime to dismantle this site so the Wings arena construction can start
ReplyDeleteFell flat. Try harder.
DeleteI got the parade route all set up for this month's 100th comment!
ReplyDeletemore here than on either ticket, dz, or cds reddit. ouchie
DeleteI wonder what TC has been up to?
ReplyDeletetrolling here, for one
DeleteBulking up for masturbation season
Deletebicycle inner tube pumping, holding nightly joe lieberman seance's dressed as gov. ann richards
DeleteDrove bus
Deletepimped for uber
DeleteAin't NO WAY Junior and George are staying until 29/30. They will announce before the start of the football season in 2027 that they will be retiring on or around June 1st 2028. You heard it here first. They will continue to do pods after their retirement from daily radio. chirp chirp chirp chirp chirp chirp
DeleteTC is a filmmaker
DeleteReally disliked the detailed retelling of the 2011 championship on the HL recently. Also musing if Jub and Junes checked out in 2029/30 and Gordo stays on.
ReplyDeleteWhy did you dislike it?
DeleteBecause blow-by-blow accounts of events that took place 15 years ago when everyone already knows all of the details is not good radio.
DeleteWhat TYIND said. Love the 2011 team, and we all love Dirk, but, yeah, going play by play like it happened last night was not good radio. I know we're in a sports lull (kinda), but geesh.
DeleteWas good stuff. Boys did a bang up job.
DeleteAin't NO WAY Junior and George are staying until 29/30. They will announce before the start of the football season in 2027 that they will be retiring on or around June 1st 2028. You heard it here first. They will continue to do pods after their retirement from daily radio. chirp chirp chirp chirp chirp chirp
DeleteTell it again!
DeleteDon’t care for it either. Feel like another show, I would assume not the hardline but I can’t remember, did it last year too. Also a thing where Mavs get a pass compared to cowboys. If a show did a recount of cowboys last superbowl it’d get made fun of big time. But with Mavs it’s ok.
ReplyDeleteLoved it.
DeleteI mean each show did multiple segments on the Netflix documentary of the last time the Cowboys were relevant in the 90s. They've also recounted Game 6 with the Rangers every few years. Bob is doing an entire Twitter timeline of the 76 Cowboys. I have no issue with them going back to that Finals because it was one of the most memorable recent moments in DFW sports history and a sports hero got his ring. There's really no other franchise right that's worth talking about. All are fairly mediocre or can't get over the hump (Stars).
Deletedab gets it
DeleteWolf Pack Attack...oh no.
ReplyDeleteAre Anonymous posts ok again? Or only if they kiss the station's ass?
ReplyDeleteTry again
DeleteSam, you back? BK, can't stay away?
DeleteHas anyone noticed that the Sweet Spot has very quietly but assuredly become the leading light of the entire radio industry?
ReplyDeleteOh man, that's a good one!
DeleteSee how sarcasm works?
Not even clever by half, scruh.
Try again.
Anyone still interning to TDZ? Anyone catch dans 69 joke?
ReplyDeleteDZ: Bad decision, coach.
Deleteall signs point to before or after training camp
ReplyDelete