A home for those who love almost everything about The Ticket (1310 AM, 96.7 FM, Dallas-Fort Worth), and who would like to discuss -- respectfully and fondly -- their thoughts on how (and whether) to eliminate the "almost."
Saturday, February 1, 2014
BREAKING: Gribble to ESPN as producer. Jake to BaD as producer. Mino to 12-7 board op.
Host lineup intact.
You just can't keep good news bottled up!
Gribble's precise assignment unknown (to this Plainsman).
Wow - great news for Jake. I feel like his presence on the Hardline will be sorely missed. Could this be interpreted as yet another kick to the groin for TC?
So, as goofy and semi useless as Tom was, this is the end of Scoops Callahan, Gabby Urinator, etc. Not that someone else couldn't pull those off still, but man. Agreed that Jake had become a pretty important part of the Hardline.
Hate to see the characters of Tom go, but the show goes on.
If Tara had been able to do Tickers when Jake moved to THL, she would be the host of the Top Ten.
TC seems to be a real nice kid. He can run the board and do Tickers which is why he is still The Top Ten host.
Jake's move to BaDD appears to be an effort to draw in the 20 something, deep stats oriented listener. I am sure that he will be quite involved in the flow of the show from an on air perspective.
I think Mino will do just fine on THL. He has held his own when doing fill in work for Jake.
I agree with wasteland. That board-op spot for the HL has always been a huge part of that presentation. I don't feel confident that Mino will be as strong a presence as Grubes and Jake were. I know that in radio, the producer spot is more prestigious than the board-op spor, but on the ticket, drops are such a big part of the shows that I think that job is more important than the producer
I think we knew that sooner rather than later there was going to be some movement between the two, now "sister," stations. I think this move is good for Tom. While I believe he was liked by all (liked in the sense that he was a coworker who is "just a guy who works in the office"), he never did quite fit in with The Ticket clique. Scoops was a great bit; I hope the character lives on with whomever Tom ends up working with. However, I can't think of a show on 103.3 that employs such shenanigans, at least since B&S left. Tom will fit in nicely at 103.3. I think it's a good move for him; and it wouldn't surprise me in the least if we come to find out that he was totally on-board with/even instigated the move. Frankly, I think both parties (BaD and Tom) are probably happy with this situation.
The bigger question is why make these moves? If it ain't broke...
But is it broke? Or, is it breaking?
The last book suggests that it might be heading that way for Norm and BaD (the latter whom Cumulus recently re-upped, the former whose contract, as far as we know, is up and has not yet been renewed). Was the book an anomaly? Did if spur the CTO to make some tweaks? Does the new book that is about to be made public indicate it wasn't? Or was this all instigated by a long standing clash of personalities (BaD and Tom-with Tom seeing an out and effecting a change, or perhaps vice-versa)? A lot of questions. Whatever the case, changes are being made.
One scenario that seems plausible (to me, at least) is that Norm is on his way out. Maybe not right now, but perhaps an exit strategy has been set in motion, and we are seeing the pieces of the eventually finished puzzle being put into place. That is, Jake becoming what Danny in essence is, a third host (in this case, a fourth). Only now his voice is prominently displayed, in sustained fashion, midday, everyday--not just Sunday mornings and dry dock. Maybe once Norm leaves (a one year extension, perhaps?), TSJ takes the 10-12 slot. Or maybe something else along those lines. A lot of working parts, for sure.
These moves do affect THL. IMHO for the better. Jake does a great job with the drops and he "gets it" nearly every bit as much as Grubes did. (Oh by the by, anyone else besides me see the return of Grubes if Mino doesn't work out?) But the generational gap between Jake and Corby/Danny is pronounced.... and with Mike.... it's so out of whack that it's beyond humorous (as it ought to be). Jake adds so much to whatever program he works with and in whatever capacity he's used. With THL, the guy's talents were being wasted. Producing BaD makes perfects sense: he and Bob can go all day sports wise (and to some extent on rap music), while he and Dan are in synch on social and political issues. On THL, he's too much the very little brother who can't believe he's hanging with his oldest brother and his friends. Not so on BaD.
Considering Grubes left the Ticket to go back to school for the primary reason of not having to be a board op for the rest of his life, no, I cannot imagine him returning to be a board op again. If Mino doesn't work out there will be someone capable ready to take over. TC, for one.
I kinda like the theory of TC eventually becoming the BaD producer, and Jake co-hosting the Hardline with Corby once Mike eventually leaves. Perhaps 10-12 can be Cirque.
Considering Grubes left school again, began working for FSSW in a tech/behind the scenes way, and is now doing the music for Stars game, I don't think it's too far-fetched an idea. Might not happen, but it's neither is it a ridiculous thought.
Some interesting thoughts, Confessors. Not beyond imagining that the CTO might have judged BaD as needing something to sharpen the focus, keep it on track, increase interest.
With respect to What This Means to the Future of The Ticket, I have only one thought: I don't think Norm is going anywhere. He'll be re-upped, if he hasn't been already. Just not happening. Nope.
I can see why they moved Jake to BaD. I really won't miss Tom that much. I doubt Jake likes the move to working full time with BaD, but does like the prospect of moving up the food chain. I know Mino is probably thrilled to get a regular gig, with THL no less, but I bet Jake is dreading working with those two. I don't think he has made any secret of the fact that he would rather work with Mike, Corby and Danny than with Bob and Dan. Will Jake be as fast to pull the trigger on WTDS as Tom was at the end of the show? Will Jake have the balls to call out Dan when he is bogging down and ignoring the back end? I want there to be confrontations that involve Dan blowing a gasket while Bob adds gas from a safe distance.
It seems the inner circle holds Jake in higher esteem than Gribble, which may lead Dan to temper any future attacks on the producer. I don't know how Gribble refrained from Sling-blading Dan, a-la Doyle, on several past occasions.
It would not surprise me to learn that this move represents some effort by Jeff C to get BaD to hew a bit more to the straight and narrow and arrest any tendency of the midday listener to experiment with the competition. This is not a BaD-bash; in fact, I've come to appreciate the show more and more over the years, and to me it's still parsecs ahead of the competition.
But of all the shows, it cannot be gainsaid that it bogs down the most. It's not all Dan's fault. I happen to like Bob's oral essays (when they're not being used as questions to an interview guest), but they do give the show a somewhat . . . leisurely quality from time to time. Indeed, some Dan defenders point out that if Dan didn't interrupt and toss some bombs into the proceedings that Bob would go on ad infinitum.
No, I wouldn't be shocked to discover that the Western-Hemispherical Catman has tasked Jake to keep the proceedings moving, and advised BaD that Jake's been given some authority to, you know, produce the show.
Associated with the last book's ratings dip for some of Norm and BaD? Possible; possible. If so, then you have to give some credit to Cat for moving aggressively and rationally to deal with any issues listeners might be having with the broadcast. Upcoming books (I hear the industry doesn't pay much attention to ratings changes unless they persist for three books) will reveal whether my view of BaD's superiority to the competition is generally shared; I wouldn't expect Jake's new assignment to make much difference in the short run either way.
And I tend to agree with Smith that should Mike leave the show, Corby would continue in PM drive, although without Mike, the resulting lack of hardness might require a new showgram title.
The only quite improbable scenario that I could see keeping Corby off Ticket PM drive would be if there were a Hardline blowup with Cumulus and they left the station or didn't re-up in a couple years and decamped to a competitor together after their noncompetes expired. But surely that's an extremely remote scenario.
I still think the Anonymi were correct when someone previously said Norm's ratings drop is hurting BaD's 1st hour. BaD's been put in the position of steering the party barge back down the river after Norm veers it slightly off course.
Does anyone else find it weird and mildly disappointing that after a week of time-wasting on media row in New York, The Ticket is now playing Yahoo Network? On the biggest sports day of the year?
I could see Shake Joint taking over 10-noon once Norm is gone, but I also think the station's higher-ups view Jake as a better talent than Sean. So when Mike leaves, it would seem a natural fit to pair Jake and Corby in afternoon drive. But who knows. The Hardline name may go with Mike, but I also doubt the station would demote Corby just because Mike calls it quits.
Shaggy, Gordo was voted weirdest, not Tom. I agree with runit's assessment of Tom's relationship with the station: good team player that worked hard, did a good job, but also was not quite one of the guys. I believe his whole Doors tribute phase was in some ways a turn off for some of the hosts. I've no inside info, it's pure speculation on my part, but there was something desperate, forced, about it. Wish nothing but the best for him over at ESPN. I'll bet anything he thrives and is extremely happy there.
I agree with Pman that Norm isn't leaving right now. I think runit's one year extension scenario might be where things are going. I can see a Norm year long farewell tour, if you will, followed by his retirement after next year's Super Bowl. He will be either 69 or 70 this year, he's past the age of retirement, he's more than financially secure, and retirement for him would only mean in the having a daily show sense of the term. He'd still have his gambling business, guest appearances galore on radio and tv (locally, regionally, and nationally), and he would be able to write (including poetry, fiction, and sports and other history). Besides, he could begin to knock off the remaining items on his travel and otherwise bucket-list while still mobile enough to fully enjoy them.
As for the future of THL, Jake, Sean (TSJ), and the rest, there are so many avenues to go down, it's (to me) fruitless to do so until we see what shakes out over the next week or so. I think once the shows begin to discuss the changes, we'll be able to get a better read on a possible long term direction of the station. The only thing I'll say about the Jake move is that I'm interested in seeing how Dan operates without having someone to blame stuff on, vent frustrations upon, and in some ways bully. Tom provided him with that 'service.' As Rick Arnett did before Tom. I don't see Jake playing that role. Especially if Jake has been told by the CTO that they have bigger plans for him.
Ladies Be Trippin'. Have we seen the last of it? I hope so. I hope Cat learned a lesson: don't bring your personal life into your business life. I'll leave it at that; you all can read into what you may.
I too used to think that, 329. Over the past year, I've come to the conclusion that Norm might no longer be so tied to the mic. I don't know about anyone else, but I've seen a definite change in Norm's demeanor toward life in general since he remarried. Although he's sports intensive and sports passionate as ever, he doesn't seem totally consumed by it like he used to be. For example, he seems on many shows to be more interested in doing the Twitter lifestyle segment than anything else except perhaps the draft. Not so long ago, he had no time for such a thing. He also seems to talk in general more about life in retrospect and the meaning of it all. Since he remarried I hear an Existential Norm coming to the fore. Some of the things he says speaks of a man who understands he's getting to / is at the point in life where things begin to take on new meanings. Maybe his priorities are changing? I think it's worth considering.
Anon 7:53 Hopefully they will get into how this Hawks outcome makes it painfully obvious the Boys need to turnover their entire roster much like Seattle did in a 3 year period! The Hawks are the youngest champs in history and have a talented team of low paid physical players. Meanwhile Jerry tries to milk more years out of clearly over the hill overpaid players. What a difference between organizational philosophies. I am depressed to even think about the Cowboys next year as they will need to restructure Ware, Witten and believe it or not Romo just to be able to sign their draft picks. We are in perpetual salary cap hell. Thanks a lot Obama.. Err Jeryy
Well, after having watched that butt kicking last night, can we now put to bed "Sports 303"? Sure, it makes the likes of Jake and Sean feel like "scientists," but just like statistics isn't actually mathematics, analytics isn't exactly sports analysis.
I would argue that the Hardline is the program suffering the most from a lack of focus. I bet this was a professional decision for Gribble (as opposed to some nefarious forcing out). He was locked in to BaD, and because of that I'm sure he believed that his career had effectively plateaued at 1310.
My thoughts exactly. I'm pretty confused why most people here seem to assume this was a CTO decision rather than Gribble's decision (which, to me, would be the obvious assumption). I can't imagine them forcing someone from one station to another and I really can't imagine them expecting any ratings effect from changing producers.
I'll miss Tom. Every time he chimed in with some one liner it hit the mark for me. Almost every time he said something on the air it was amusing. And of course, no more Scoops... best bit ever.
The rumor has it Jake wants nothing to do with Sean any further than doing a show on Sundays. The plan seems to be when Mike retires it will be Corby and Jake. Jake's preference is to not do a weekday show with Sean Bass.
Nah...Corby is not going to be hosting after Mike retires. He spares everybody to death. No program director would be stupid enough to make that decision.
For all the HL haters out there, I invite you to take a look at The Unticket archives. Specifically look at the view count on each show. THL is far and away the most viewed. FAR AND AWAY. The next closest show is The Musers, and excepting a few episodes, the discrepancy between the amount of views DnM and THL get is in the hundreds. BaD, Norm, and the weekend shows barely register.
Bottom line: THL is doing more than fine. The ratings show it, The Unticket archives show it. I have to think that if Corby is THAT polarizing and truly is the cause for droves of listeners to stop listening to THL, we'd have seen tangible evidence by now. We've only seen evidence to the contrary. The Corby haters are a small but loud (like most all fringe groups) voice.
I think the ratings are still king for THL because they have the same cast minus Gregg and do a lot of the same type show and bits. If Corby was headlining THL, I would be out.
I will not miss Gribble at all. He is a beating. I will miss Jake running the board on THL but he'll do fine producing BaD. When Mike leaves Corby will absolutely remain a host of THL, anyone who thinks otherwise is delusional. I can see Jake moving into the co-host spot if that happens. Hopefully Mike will remain on THL for 1000 more years.
Yeah, People hang in to the Hardline for Rhyner. If Corby is the captain, you've got a lame, uninteresting, boring TMZ style, Sat morning style show! Sorry!
I invite the 3 or 4 people that don't like Corby to get their afternoon drive-time sports talk elsewhere. I am sure Ben and Skin could use a few more listeners.
@ Anon 5:54. You can guarantee if it does turn into a TMZ fest with Corby, I will be listening to something else. It will probably be Pandora and not B&S though.
Pretty harsh and unfounded assertions there, 703. Sounds more like a personal ax to grind than an opinion. Besides, Sean is BaD's Ticker man, no? He also has a show with him. Exactly how is that a move towards separation?
I'm also happy for Jake. I'd have to think it's due to Mino having first day jitters and the newness of the thing, but THL was fairly drop and otherwise free today. Honestly, I didn't mind it. Then again, Jake was like that when he first started the gig. He let the game come to him in a big way. But it only took a few months before he was approaching a Grubes level of drop insanity.
+1 on the I wish the Corby haters would give up the ghost meme. We get it, you all find Corby to be a beating, blah blah blah. The ratings say otherwise.
Why would Mike retire? Why would Norm retire? They have (for them, by now at any rate) very easy jobs and agreeable lifestyles. The sort of lifestyles that a job such as the one they have affords. Both get highly compensated to discuss what interests them. For Mike it's some baseball, a lot of music, and some entertainment/Hollywood bulsh. For Norm it's sports, the gambling aspect of sports, travel, and posturing as a lawyer from time to time. Both are given more than generous amounts of vacay time, a free, primo VIP, pass to nearly any and every sporting and music or otherwise event that passes through here, and are treated like rockstars by a great number of the area's denizens. Both get chicks way out of their demos (both age and looks) because of all the above, as well (ever seen Mary or Norm's ex? Rhynes's ex or any of the much much younger chicks he's been seen with from time to time? Top shelf stuff, friends). Unless forced to do so, why on earth would either retire anytime soon?
Where is this whole Corby TMZ thing coming from? He does E-News, which is really the only time he goes down that path. It's about 15 minutes of a 4 hour show. Not a big deal.
Hey T4 in Rockwall: If Jake were to be paired up with Corby and Danny in the future (whenever Mike does retire)I think it would be a good combo. By that point Corby will be approaching 50 and will have settled into a more mature role/persona IMO. The sports talk wonkiness of Jake would be perfectly balanced with takes from Corby and Danny. Sign me up for that future trio. If you recall Rhynes went into dry dock a day early and the above referenced combo did have one day together before Christmas and I thought they were real and spectacular
Corby is 45 now and still acts like a stupid 18 year old. Purt sure Corby will be done when Hardline retires. @5:54 personally, I do change from THL frequently during the show. The show gets a little weak at times, and I don't mind sayin, I do check out B & S. Not too crazy about Mosley.
Does anyone else have a hell of time deciphering the security code letter thingys when making a post? Sometimes I'll have to try 3 or 4 times before correctly matching the jumbled text. I post solely from a smart phone, so maybe it's clearer on an actual computer.
I will also join in on the chorus of people hoping the Corby detractors who post variations on the same theme go do their own afternoon show, since it's obviously so easy. THL will involve Corby after Mike is done. And don't be surprised if the ratings stay strong. As much as some people would like to think they represent the majority with their Corby hatred, numbers just don't lie.
@anon 5:54, "for every 3 or 4 that don't like Corby", I'll bet there's a lot more that don't. They just don't waste time posting about it. Probably more like "the 3 or 4" that do like him, are posting on here.
I don't like corky, especially with Mike. But corky is one part of a radio show I've listened to for 20 years, and until there's a better alternative in this 3.5hr's of a 24hr day I'll keep listening to the Hardline and posting here, in a thoughtful manner, about my disdain for corky. That is, as long as the Plainsman allows me to do so. As I have in the past, I'll even give corky credit when due. corky is a little less bad when he's held accountable with facts and opinions by Bob or Jake. Unfortunately, that's not often enough. In regard to citing ratings as evidence of quality, some musical acts sell a S-ton of music, so I guess I'll let you get back to your Justin Bieber mp3's when THL signs off. Also, I am very well aware that most people like corky and I think, aside from the Anonymi here, many of the Hardline's listeners tune in because of a lack of competition and listener apathy. The same reason some horrible politicians get re-elected year after year.
@2:22 aka 5:54 (try not to be so obvious in your overt thumbs upping of your own posts, pal)
If the ratings, etc. have no effect on your stance (i.e., empirical data), then nothing will. You're a blowhard with an agenda. A sad, Sisyphean agenda, but an agenda nonetheless.
@blergoyen Of course Corby has his drawbacks and there are many legit complaints to be made. You sum up the gist of his sins nicely: little to no prep, a lack of accountability where facts are concerned, and an ignorance of certain topics while deigning to speak authoritatively on them. He's guilty as charged. However, if you step back and take a look at all of the hosts, they too are guilty of these same charges. And yes, that includes Bob and Jake. (I'm not sure why those two are perceived my many as being infallible; both speak out of their asses on many subjects; I guess when you speak in a baritone and with a tone of apodictic certainty, people tend to take everything you say prima facie as correct.) I think with Corby, he does these things (i) in prime time, (ii) the subject matter [current pop culture] is such that most of us already know the answer or have a good working knowledge of and therefore can see the b.s. a mile away, and (iii) the fact that he presents it in a sort of nasally, bitchy way that reminds of you of all the frat guys you couldn't stand while in college or the popular jerks who treated you like ass in high school. Ceteris paribus, in reality he's not that much different in the above regards to any other host.
I agree with the anon above me. Corby certainly has his weaknesses and he's on a beloved show in drive time so he's a bigger target and the seat is hotter for him.
But I also want to point out that by the time THL rolls around, unless there's been breaking news in mid-day, they're discussing the same stories we already saw on TV/read on a website/heard the Musers and BaD discuss. I like ENews but it does feel old by the time they get around to the stories of the day.
I agree with the thing about how there's lots of musicians who sell lots of records and sell out arenas and are crap. Numbers aren't a litmus test of quality. I think the numbers come into play when certain people are saying "oh Corby is DEFINITELY out of there when Mike leaves". Like it or not, the numbers would lead me (and others) to believe that the station would not want to replace someone who is partially responsible for bringing those numbers in.
Maybe I'm in the minority (though I suspect I am not) for believing that the station is headed in a good direction and that direction includes Corby, Jake et al. I'm happy to listen to Mike and Corby every day and I'm open and interested in hearing the future of Corby and whomever once Mike leaves. Which btw I don't see happening anytime soon.
Another thing I would like folks to recall is that Corby gets much, much better reviews across the board when he is either (1) running THL without Mike, or (2) filling in on another show. A Hardline with him and another, almost any other, including Danny or Jake or Bob, would probably be a pretty good show.
Mm . . . maybe not the "Corby and Dan Show."
Although, you know, now that I think about it, I think Corby + Dan might have some potential. Not too sportsy, but possibly fun.
Having said that, I don't think Mike is going anywhere any time soon any more than I think Norm is, and Norm isn't.
Nothing lasts forever, but the recent musical chairs doesn't strike me as an appetizer for any imminent additional changes.
Good riddance to Gribble. That leaves SeaBass as my most hated Ticket personality. The dude comes off like a smug, humorless, red-ass about everything. Hopefully, Jake will distance from him forthwith.
I absolutely do not understand the number and vehemence of the anti-Bass comments. I have no idea of how he's viewed by his Ticket colleagues, but I don't hear the on-air evidence of the bad qualities attributed to him here -- at least not any more visible than those same characteristics in other hosts, Tickermen, specialty-show hosts, and the like.
He's not an enormous fan of this site, but who is at The Ticket? Sean seems to me to be an extremely solid contributor, and The Shake Joint has established itself quickly as a polished, entertaining weekend show with potential for greater things.
Something going on out there with Sean of which Your Plainsman should be made aware?
Sean Bass is solid. Yes he can get full of himself every now and again. Exactly which Ticket personality doesn't? Name one, please. You can't. Overall he delivers balanced sports analysis and has become a serious advocate for the prevention of drunken driving. What's so bad about either of those things? Not a thing, that's what. So you don't like Sean Bass. You've made your voice known at least three times on this thread alone. We get it. Now either move on to another topic or move on to another blog's combox to hear your head rattle. Because at this point, that's all you've done here.
107, I don't necessarily think it's one guy posting over and over. We had an anti-Bass outbreak a month or so back from a number of commenters. Took me by surprise.
@ Plainsman Of course you defend Sean Basskins, you defend TC for chrissakes! In fact, you consistently honor everything KTCK does. Sure, you'll harp on some spots now and then, or a weekend program, but you're the leader of the blind.
Gribs has been wanting out for a while, he, like all the third tier guys at the ticket (along with Jake and Sean both) knocked on the Fan's door pretty loudly.
We don't understand the negative Sea Bass sentiment either. He is a solid contributor in all 3 phases. Guys like Sea Bass and TC are a lot of the reason for Jake's recent success. Jake needs those guys, without them things like Its Just Banter and The Shake Joint don't exist.
I will be sad to see Tom go. As someone else pointed out, his one-liners could really crack me up. (And seriously, Plainsman, see if the UnTicket has the egg salad sandwich drop.) Maybe it's Tom's voice. It has a Simpsons-esque quality to it that, while I cannot stand in Norm, I can appreciate it in him. It's almost the hasn't-quite-hit-puberty-Peter-Brady-"Time-to-Change" voice. I find it endearing.
I am not that big of a fan of Jake, but mainly because it can be hard to accept the change that comes with a radio station being on the air for twenty years. I got in on the very tail end of Greggo so the switch to Corby never bothered me. The Musers have stayed the same since I started listening, as has BaD Radio. I really have no vested interest in the board-ops and producers and Saturday fill-ins that have been coming and going as of late. I figure I'll get used to more of Jake and Mino, and then they'll go on to something else.
I don't know what all the bashing of Sean Bass is about, but I do get there is a certain sense of arrogance about him. My opinion of him changed once he called Michael Young a "sub-par" player on White Elephant Day a few years ago. (I sent him a strongly-worded email about that, thank you very much.) But my opinion of him changed again after he lost his girlfriend in that drunk-driving accident. I recognized him as being human, as opposed to this radio figure that was intangible. I don't give him a free pass on all his opinions because of this (Let him say one more bad thing about Michael Young...), but it helps me to take a step back and realize that all of our favorite hosts, board-ops, Ticket Ticker guys, producers, etc., are real life people who are not always as large as their radio counterparts.
@Plainsman You are correct; there has been a few anti-Sean outbursts over the past 6 months. However, this spate the writing style bears the mark of one individual. You can see this, plainly, in the 1:45 and 2:09 comments that follow your last (1:09) comment. It's sad, it's pathetic, it's opaque in intention, but unfortunately it's the internet. The internet: where cowards with small minds put on display, for all to see, their sad psychopathologies.
I'm the 12:40 anti-Bass commenter and I've never commented on him before. I saw some other negative comments about him and I wanted to chime in on that side. No conspiracy. He seems like a hard-on and I don't like his broadcasting. And I'm not kidding.
I am another poster who has frequently voiced my dislike of Sean Bass. For a long time, I couldn't put my finger on it, but recently I realize it's because he seems like such a wanna-be. I realize Corby, Gordon, Jake, Danny, etc. are all liberal blowhards, but they seem genuine and sincere. Bass seems like he is a little too quick to make sure everybody knows how hip and progressive he is, and it comes off like he's trying too hard to be cool. It's like the dork in high school who follows the cool kids around and just repeats everything they say. And every time a baseball discussion breaks out on any show he's on, he is so quick to butt into the conversation so everybody knows just how much of a baseball guy he is. Ok dude, you know how to calculate WAR and you host a baseball postgame show, but that doesn't automatically make you the authority on baseball in this town. I beg the Catman not to put him in any kind of weekday hosting duties when Norm or another host leaves. If that happens it will be the 1st time in 20 years I won't be able to listen to the Ticket all day.
I'm not the biggest Sean Bass fan, b/c he doesn't make me laugh, which is a requirement for me to like you on the radio. He does know his baseball though, there's no denying that.
Dang. What's the dealio with all the Seabass hatin'? He's does Tickers, hosts a postgame show that's aired late weeknights for a few months and not even aired all that much, and he co hosts a Sunday morning show with a dude that everyone seems to thinks s***s golden eggs. It's pretty easy to not have to deal with him if he bothers you so much. I for one like his bag.
@209 So when someone writes well you want to make fun of them? What's wrong with you man? If you disagree then say why. LOL. Really? How played out is that? How played out are you? You seem mad, bro. Are you? Why?
@8:07 "You seem mad bro. Are you? Why?"....hmm..I've read that before somewhere. Wait a minu...it can't be...are..are you...the same blowhard, turdbucket takin up for Corby a few threads back?!! Is this Corby's cousin?
I am a strictly Monday through Friday P1. I don't find myself at the dial on the weekend, mainly because I have the family with me. Therefore, I don't hear Sea Bass enough to dislike him. He's alright in my book until I've been proven otherwise and what he does during the work week isn't enough. I've also said before on this blog that Corby has a place at the Ticket. I like him...just not as a full time host. Maybe a third host or, as Plains man said, put him on another show and I could stomach more of him. I really think their ratings stay steady because they really haven't changed over the years. They've eased both Danny and Corby in their roles (Corby was on the air a lot when Greggo was here), although with Corby it was more so than Danny. That's when I started disliking him...When Greggo left. He had this haughty attitude and was very unforgiving of Greggo back in the day. The haughtiness has just gotten stronger and it almost seems like he tries to be that way to get a certain stature. Like he's thinking, "this is how I'll make a name for myself." He seems to do it for spite. Enough Negative Nancy. Maybe the next thread will have a more uplifting atmosphere.
Another thing. I've said it before but this ain't the place for people to be arguing and flaming. Especially if you can't come out from behind your Anon status. That's just writing crap and seeing what sticks to the walls.
Anon 1:45...care to elaborate on your comment about Tom, Jake & Sean knocking loudly at The Fans door? I have ZERO inside info, but I just cant believe The Fan (and Ben & Skin specifically) wouldn't jump at the chance to scoop up Jake as a Producer and/or significant voice.
In fact, when B&S landed at 1053 I just kind of assumed they at least reached out to Jake.
Can anyone provide any thought on why TC was not offered the board op job over Mino? I assume that is a better position than hosting the top 10, right?
Let Mino breathe. He is a huge P1 most likely and he doesn't want to overstep his bounds too soon so it will take a little while for him to get situated but i assure you he will fit right in. I think TC is comfortable in the position he is in. Think about it he practically has his own show. I don't think he is too worried about not getting the board op gig. Corby is fine and will always stay at the Hardline. There is no big beef between Sean and Jake. Boom Roasted.
@ChronoButt Everything you said, but opposite. There. It has the same amount of weight as your claims. Substance, folks. Reasons. SOMETHING other than the home movies projecting from your minds.
Well whats the point of this forum if everyone is going to debunk everyone elses post. How do you know i dont work at the station and know those people personally? How do you know im not TC or Sean.
Wow, I make MTC a daily stop for all things P1 and to see if there's anything I missed in the world of theories and fantasy hostings ideas, but I didn't think it would escalate or better yet devolve into this angry, bitter, frustrated, "I'm right and you're wrong. No, I'M right and YOU'RE wrong" kind of talk.
Come on guys, it's radio. It's the Ticket. It's the guys we know and love to hang out with while talking sports and all that implies. Let's lift the guys up and be grateful we live in an area where we're not FORCED to listen to ESPN or The Fan because of the lack of options.
Hey guys. Haha, oh boy. T4 and Big Unit are just funnin' around. Those are some of the hijinks you can expect at www.grubesismyleader.com . Good times.
Well anyways, we have an AMA with the Cumulus janitor coming up. So stop on by and talk in nothing but Ticket drops.
Once again, T4, GIML was created for fans of BaD Radio to come and discuss The Ticket. It was not created for rivals of GIML to post chase with "your forum sucks."
I realize this thread has veered way off the path, but I just wanted it to reach 100 comments......AND BEG Plainsman to revisit the required name requirement. Any chance Plainsman?
good riddance. always hated flakeboy.
ReplyDeleteWow - great news for Jake. I feel like his presence on the Hardline will be sorely missed. Could this be interpreted as yet another kick to the groin for TC?
ReplyDeleteSo, as goofy and semi useless as Tom was, this is the end of Scoops Callahan, Gabby Urinator, etc. Not that someone else couldn't pull those off still, but man. Agreed that Jake had become a pretty important part of the Hardline.
ReplyDeleteNew to the station. Who is mino?
ReplyDeleteFormer 2nd string board op.
ReplyDeleteBiggest adjustment here for the listener will be Mino.
ReplyDeleteHate to see the characters of Tom go, but the show goes on.
ReplyDeleteIf Tara had been able to do Tickers when Jake moved to THL, she would be the host of the Top Ten.
TC seems to be a real nice kid. He can run the board and do Tickers which is why he is still The Top Ten host.
Jake's move to BaDD appears to be an effort to draw in the 20 something, deep stats oriented listener. I am sure that he will be quite involved in the flow of the show from an on air perspective.
I think Mino will do just fine on THL. He has held his own when doing fill in work for Jake.
I agree with wasteland. That board-op spot for the HL has always been a huge part of that presentation. I don't feel confident that Mino will be as strong a presence as Grubes and Jake were.
ReplyDeleteI know that in radio, the producer spot is more prestigious than the board-op spor, but on the ticket, drops are such a big part of the shows that I think that job is more important than the producer
A few thoughts:
ReplyDeleteI think we knew that sooner rather than later there was going to be some movement between the two, now "sister," stations. I think this move is good for Tom. While I believe he was liked by all (liked in the sense that he was a coworker who is "just a guy who works in the office"), he never did quite fit in with The Ticket clique. Scoops was a great bit; I hope the character lives on with whomever Tom ends up working with. However, I can't think of a show on 103.3 that employs such shenanigans, at least since B&S left. Tom will fit in nicely at 103.3. I think it's a good move for him; and it wouldn't surprise me in the least if we come to find out that he was totally on-board with/even instigated the move. Frankly, I think both parties (BaD and Tom) are probably happy with this situation.
The bigger question is why make these moves? If it ain't broke...
But is it broke? Or, is it breaking?
The last book suggests that it might be heading that way for Norm and BaD (the latter whom Cumulus recently re-upped, the former whose contract, as far as we know, is up and has not yet been renewed). Was the book an anomaly? Did if spur the CTO to make some tweaks? Does the new book that is about to be made public indicate it wasn't? Or was this all instigated by a long standing clash of personalities (BaD and Tom-with Tom seeing an out and effecting a change, or perhaps vice-versa)? A lot of questions. Whatever the case, changes are being made.
One scenario that seems plausible (to me, at least) is that Norm is on his way out. Maybe not right now, but perhaps an exit strategy has been set in motion, and we are seeing the pieces of the eventually finished puzzle being put into place. That is, Jake becoming what Danny in essence is, a third host (in this case, a fourth). Only now his voice is prominently displayed, in sustained fashion, midday, everyday--not just Sunday mornings and dry dock. Maybe once Norm leaves (a one year extension, perhaps?), TSJ takes the 10-12 slot. Or maybe something else along those lines. A lot of working parts, for sure.
These moves do affect THL. IMHO for the better. Jake does a great job with the drops and he "gets it" nearly every bit as much as Grubes did. (Oh by the by, anyone else besides me see the return of Grubes if Mino doesn't work out?) But the generational gap between Jake and Corby/Danny is pronounced.... and with Mike.... it's so out of whack that it's beyond humorous (as it ought to be). Jake adds so much to whatever program he works with and in whatever capacity he's used. With THL, the guy's talents were being wasted. Producing BaD makes perfects sense: he and Bob can go all day sports wise (and to some extent on rap music), while he and Dan are in synch on social and political issues. On THL, he's too much the very little brother who can't believe he's hanging with his oldest brother and his friends. Not so on BaD.
Interesting times.
Considering Grubes left the Ticket to go back to school for the primary reason of not having to be a board op for the rest of his life, no, I cannot imagine him returning to be a board op again. If Mino doesn't work out there will be someone capable ready to take over. TC, for one.
ReplyDeleteI kinda like the theory of TC eventually becoming the BaD producer, and Jake co-hosting the Hardline with Corby once Mike eventually leaves. Perhaps 10-12 can be Cirque.
Considering Grubes left school again, began working for FSSW in a tech/behind the scenes way, and is now doing the music for Stars game, I don't think it's too far-fetched an idea. Might not happen, but it's neither is it a ridiculous thought.
ReplyDeleteSome interesting thoughts, Confessors. Not beyond imagining that the CTO might have judged BaD as needing something to sharpen the focus, keep it on track, increase interest.
ReplyDeleteWith respect to What This Means to the Future of The Ticket, I have only one thought: I don't think Norm is going anywhere. He'll be re-upped, if he hasn't been already. Just not happening. Nope.
Smith, once Mike retires, the Hardline will be done. Corby will not be hosting a drive time slot. Book it!
ReplyDeleteCorby will absolutely be hosting the Hardline once MIke leaves.
ReplyDeleteI can see why they moved Jake to BaD. I really won't miss Tom that much. I doubt Jake likes the move to working full time with BaD, but does like the prospect of moving up the food chain. I know Mino is probably thrilled to get a regular gig, with THL no less, but I bet Jake is dreading working with those two. I don't think he has made any secret of the fact that he would rather work with Mike, Corby and Danny than with Bob and Dan. Will Jake be as fast to pull the trigger on WTDS as Tom was at the end of the show? Will Jake have the balls to call out Dan when he is bogging down and ignoring the back end? I want there to be confrontations that involve Dan blowing a gasket while Bob adds gas from a safe distance.
ReplyDeleteIt seems the inner circle holds Jake in higher esteem than Gribble, which may lead Dan to temper any future attacks on the producer. I don't know how Gribble refrained from Sling-blading Dan, a-la Doyle, on several past occasions.
ReplyDeleteIt would not surprise me to learn that this move represents some effort by Jeff C to get BaD to hew a bit more to the straight and narrow and arrest any tendency of the midday listener to experiment with the competition. This is not a BaD-bash; in fact, I've come to appreciate the show more and more over the years, and to me it's still parsecs ahead of the competition.
ReplyDeleteBut of all the shows, it cannot be gainsaid that it bogs down the most. It's not all Dan's fault. I happen to like Bob's oral essays (when they're not being used as questions to an interview guest), but they do give the show a somewhat . . . leisurely quality from time to time. Indeed, some Dan defenders point out that if Dan didn't interrupt and toss some bombs into the proceedings that Bob would go on ad infinitum.
No, I wouldn't be shocked to discover that the Western-Hemispherical Catman has tasked Jake to keep the proceedings moving, and advised BaD that Jake's been given some authority to, you know, produce the show.
Associated with the last book's ratings dip for some of Norm and BaD? Possible; possible. If so, then you have to give some credit to Cat for moving aggressively and rationally to deal with any issues listeners might be having with the broadcast. Upcoming books (I hear the industry doesn't pay much attention to ratings changes unless they persist for three books) will reveal whether my view of BaD's superiority to the competition is generally shared; I wouldn't expect Jake's new assignment to make much difference in the short run either way.
And I tend to agree with Smith that should Mike leave the show, Corby would continue in PM drive, although without Mike, the resulting lack of hardness might require a new showgram title.
ReplyDeleteThe only quite improbable scenario that I could see keeping Corby off Ticket PM drive would be if there were a Hardline blowup with Cumulus and they left the station or didn't re-up in a couple years and decamped to a competitor together after their noncompetes expired. But surely that's an extremely remote scenario.
I know, don't call you Shirley.
I still think the Anonymi were correct when someone previously said Norm's ratings drop is hurting BaD's 1st hour. BaD's been put in the position of steering the party barge back down the river after Norm veers it slightly off course.
ReplyDelete@The Plainsman, can you direct me to where I can see BaD radio's ratings(or any sports talk program in Dallas)?
ReplyDeleteThe only place I can ever find that mentions the ratings is whenever Barry Horn writes a piece.
Does anyone else find it weird and mildly disappointing that after a week of time-wasting on media row in New York, The Ticket is now playing Yahoo Network? On the biggest sports day of the year?
ReplyDeleteI could see Shake Joint taking over 10-noon once Norm is gone, but I also think the station's higher-ups view Jake as a better talent than Sean. So when Mike leaves, it would seem a natural fit to pair Jake and Corby in afternoon drive. But who knows. The Hardline name may go with Mike, but I also doubt the station would demote Corby just because Mike calls it quits.
ReplyDeleteI wonder how Gribble felt about the poll taken at the station, with the results being discussed on air about Tom being the weirdest guy at the Ticket.
ReplyDeleteShaggy, Gordo was voted weirdest, not Tom. I agree with runit's assessment of Tom's relationship with the station: good team player that worked hard, did a good job, but also was not quite one of the guys. I believe his whole Doors tribute phase was in some ways a turn off for some of the hosts. I've no inside info, it's pure speculation on my part, but there was something desperate, forced, about it. Wish nothing but the best for him over at ESPN. I'll bet anything he thrives and is extremely happy there.
ReplyDeleteI agree with Pman that Norm isn't leaving right now. I think runit's one year extension scenario might be where things are going. I can see a Norm year long farewell tour, if you will, followed by his retirement after next year's Super Bowl. He will be either 69 or 70 this year, he's past the age of retirement, he's more than financially secure, and retirement for him would only mean in the having a daily show sense of the term. He'd still have his gambling business, guest appearances galore on radio and tv (locally, regionally, and nationally), and he would be able to write (including poetry, fiction, and sports and other history). Besides, he could begin to knock off the remaining items on his travel and otherwise bucket-list while still mobile enough to fully enjoy them.
As for the future of THL, Jake, Sean (TSJ), and the rest, there are so many avenues to go down, it's (to me) fruitless to do so until we see what shakes out over the next week or so. I think once the shows begin to discuss the changes, we'll be able to get a better read on a possible long term direction of the station. The only thing I'll say about the Jake move is that I'm interested in seeing how Dan operates without having someone to blame stuff on, vent frustrations upon, and in some ways bully. Tom provided him with that 'service.' As Rick Arnett did before Tom. I don't see Jake playing that role. Especially if Jake has been told by the CTO that they have bigger plans for him.
Ladies Be Trippin'. Have we seen the last of it? I hope so. I hope Cat learned a lesson: don't bring your personal life into your business life. I'll leave it at that; you all can read into what you may.
I think if Norm has anything to say about it, he will drop dead behind the microphone or at the track.
ReplyDeleteI too used to think that, 329. Over the past year, I've come to the conclusion that Norm might no longer be so tied to the mic. I don't know about anyone else, but I've seen a definite change in Norm's demeanor toward life in general since he remarried. Although he's sports intensive and sports passionate as ever, he doesn't seem totally consumed by it like he used to be. For example, he seems on many shows to be more interested in doing the Twitter lifestyle segment than anything else except perhaps the draft. Not so long ago, he had no time for such a thing. He also seems to talk in general more about life in retrospect and the meaning of it all. Since he remarried I hear an Existential Norm coming to the fore. Some of the things he says speaks of a man who understands he's getting to / is at the point in life where things begin to take on new meanings. Maybe his priorities are changing? I think it's worth considering.
ReplyDeleteWill the Musers spend more time Monday talking about the Super Bowl or the death of Philip Seymour Hoffman?
ReplyDeleteAnon 7:53
ReplyDeleteHopefully they will get into how this Hawks outcome makes it painfully obvious the Boys need to turnover their entire roster much like Seattle did in a 3 year period! The Hawks are the youngest champs in history and have a talented team of low paid physical players. Meanwhile Jerry tries to milk more years out of clearly over the hill overpaid players. What a difference between organizational philosophies. I am depressed to even think about the Cowboys next year as they will need to restructure Ware, Witten and believe it or not Romo just to be able to sign their draft picks. We are in perpetual salary cap hell. Thanks a lot Obama.. Err Jeryy
@1017pm
ReplyDeleteYou actually wasted your time on making that comment?
Then again, I wasted mine commenting on yours.
I guess you "win."
Whatever that means.
Well, after having watched that butt kicking last night, can we now put to bed "Sports 303"? Sure, it makes the likes of Jake and Sean feel like "scientists," but just like statistics isn't actually mathematics, analytics isn't exactly sports analysis.
ReplyDeleteI would argue that the Hardline is the program suffering the most from a lack of focus. I bet this was a professional decision for Gribble (as opposed to some nefarious forcing out). He was locked in to BaD, and because of that I'm sure he believed that his career had effectively plateaued at 1310.
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ReplyDeleteMy thoughts exactly. I'm pretty confused why most people here seem to assume this was a CTO decision rather than Gribble's decision (which, to me, would be the obvious assumption). I can't imagine them forcing someone from one station to another and I really can't imagine them expecting any ratings effect from changing producers.
I'll miss Tom. Every time he chimed in with some one liner it hit the mark for me. Almost every time he said something on the air it was amusing. And of course, no more Scoops... best bit ever.
The rumor has it Jake wants nothing to do with Sean any further than doing a show on Sundays. The plan seems to be when Mike retires it will be Corby and Jake. Jake's preference is to not do a weekday show with Sean Bass.
ReplyDeleteThe rumor...based on what? Where ya gettin' this from, Zap2it?
ReplyDelete@1225 - So after XX years as a 3rd host Danny Balls is going to keep his SAME job and produce a show called the Cake Joint???
ReplyDeleteI'm still pretty sure it was Tom that won the strangest guy poll.
ReplyDeleteSnake Joint?
ReplyDeleteIf Danny's involved, maybe The I Like Steak Joint.
ReplyDeleteAnd yeah, let's not go spreading rumors about Jake and Sean without some foundation, what say?
Gordon won the strangest guy poll, with Tom 2nd.
ReplyDeleteBAD radio will discuss this during the next segment
ReplyDeleteAbout 11 minutes into the Muser's show on Wednesday January 29, they reveal that Gordon won the weirdest guy at the Ticket. Gribble came in 2nd.
ReplyDeleteI stand corrected. Thanks a bunch for the timestamp.
ReplyDeleteNah...Corby is not going to be hosting after Mike retires. He spares everybody to death. No program director would be stupid enough to make that decision.
ReplyDeleteI hope that's sarcasm.
ReplyDeleteIf not: So the PD is dumb enough to make him a co-host with Mike, but not a co-host with somebody else?
For all the HL haters out there, I invite you to take a look at The Unticket archives. Specifically look at the view count on each show. THL is far and away the most viewed. FAR AND AWAY. The next closest show is The Musers, and excepting a few episodes, the discrepancy between the amount of views DnM and THL get is in the hundreds. BaD, Norm, and the weekend shows barely register.
ReplyDeleteBottom line: THL is doing more than fine. The ratings show it, The Unticket archives show it. I have to think that if Corby is THAT polarizing and truly is the cause for droves of listeners to stop listening to THL, we'd have seen tangible evidence by now. We've only seen evidence to the contrary. The Corby haters are a small but loud (like most all fringe groups) voice.
I think the ratings are still king for THL because they have the same cast minus Gregg and do a lot of the same type show and bits. If Corby was headlining THL, I would be out.
ReplyDelete*Greggo. Dang spell check.
DeleteI will not miss Gribble at all. He is a beating.
ReplyDeleteI will miss Jake running the board on THL but he'll do fine producing BaD.
When Mike leaves Corby will absolutely remain a host of THL, anyone who thinks otherwise is delusional. I can see Jake moving into the co-host spot if that happens.
Hopefully Mike will remain on THL for 1000 more years.
I agree with everything Dan's Beach Towel just said.
ReplyDeleteYeah, People hang in to the Hardline for Rhyner. If Corby is the captain, you've got a lame, uninteresting, boring TMZ style, Sat morning style show! Sorry!
ReplyDeleteI invite the 3 or 4 people that don't like Corby to get their afternoon drive-time sports talk elsewhere. I am sure Ben and Skin could use a few more listeners.
ReplyDeleteAnon 5:54 pm
ReplyDeleteI completely agree with you in my estimation..
Glad for Jake, he needs to Separate himself from Sean Bass to become successful at the Ticket cause Bass is going to go nowhere at the Ticket.
ReplyDelete@ Anon 5:54. You can guarantee if it does turn into a TMZ fest with Corby, I will be listening to something else. It will probably be Pandora and not B&S though.
ReplyDeletePretty harsh and unfounded assertions there, 703. Sounds more like a personal ax to grind than an opinion. Besides, Sean is BaD's Ticker man, no? He also has a show with him. Exactly how is that a move towards separation?
ReplyDeleteI'm also happy for Jake. I'd have to think it's due to Mino having first day jitters and the newness of the thing, but THL was fairly drop and otherwise free today. Honestly, I didn't mind it. Then again, Jake was like that when he first started the gig. He let the game come to him in a big way. But it only took a few months before he was approaching a Grubes level of drop insanity.
+1 on the I wish the Corby haters would give up the ghost meme. We get it, you all find Corby to be a beating, blah blah blah. The ratings say otherwise.
Why would Mike retire? Why would Norm retire? They have (for them, by now at any rate) very easy jobs and agreeable lifestyles. The sort of lifestyles that a job such as the one they have affords. Both get highly compensated to discuss what interests them. For Mike it's some baseball, a lot of music, and some entertainment/Hollywood bulsh. For Norm it's sports, the gambling aspect of sports, travel, and posturing as a lawyer from time to time. Both are given more than generous amounts of vacay time, a free, primo VIP, pass to nearly any and every sporting and music or otherwise event that passes through here, and are treated like rockstars by a great number of the area's denizens. Both get chicks way out of their demos (both age and looks) because of all the above, as well (ever seen Mary or Norm's ex? Rhynes's ex or any of the much much younger chicks he's been seen with from time to time? Top shelf stuff, friends). Unless forced to do so, why on earth would either retire anytime soon?
Where is this whole Corby TMZ thing coming from? He does E-News, which is really the only time he goes down that path. It's about 15 minutes of a 4 hour show. Not a big deal.
ReplyDeleteHey T4 in Rockwall: If Jake were to be paired up with Corby and Danny in the future (whenever Mike does retire)I think it would be a good combo. By that point Corby will be approaching 50 and will have settled into a more mature role/persona IMO. The sports talk wonkiness of Jake would be perfectly balanced with takes from Corby and Danny. Sign me up for that future trio. If you recall Rhynes went into dry dock a day early and the above referenced combo did have one day together before Christmas and I thought they were real and spectacular
ReplyDeleteAn emphatic +1 @9:41
ReplyDeleteCorby is 45 now and still acts like a stupid 18 year old. Purt sure Corby will be done when Hardline retires. @5:54 personally, I do change from THL frequently during the show. The show gets a little weak at times, and I don't mind sayin, I do check out B & S. Not too crazy about Mosley.
ReplyDelete@12:25 talk about a completely unfounded rumor, totally made up by someone bored trying to get responses.
ReplyDeleteDoes anyone else have a hell of time deciphering the security code letter thingys when making a post? Sometimes I'll have to try 3 or 4 times before correctly matching the jumbled text. I post solely from a smart phone, so maybe it's clearer on an actual computer.
ReplyDeleteI will also join in on the chorus of people hoping the Corby detractors who post variations on the same theme go do their own afternoon show, since it's obviously so easy. THL will involve Corby after Mike is done. And don't be surprised if the ratings stay strong. As much as some people would like to think they represent the majority with their Corby hatred, numbers just don't lie.
ReplyDelete@anon 5:54, "for every 3 or 4 that don't like Corby", I'll bet there's a lot more that don't. They just don't waste time posting about it. Probably more like "the 3 or 4" that do like him, are posting on here.
ReplyDeleteI don't like corky, especially with Mike. But corky is one part of a radio show I've listened to for 20 years, and until there's a better alternative in this 3.5hr's of a 24hr day I'll keep listening to the Hardline and posting here, in a thoughtful manner, about my disdain for corky. That is, as long as the Plainsman allows me to do so. As I have in the past, I'll even give corky credit when due. corky is a little less bad when he's held accountable with facts and opinions by Bob or Jake. Unfortunately, that's not often enough. In regard to citing ratings as evidence of quality, some musical acts sell a S-ton of music, so I guess I'll let you get back to your Justin Bieber mp3's when THL signs off. Also, I am very well aware that most people like corky and I think, aside from the Anonymi here, many of the Hardline's listeners tune in because of a lack of competition and listener apathy. The same reason some horrible politicians get re-elected year after year.
ReplyDelete@2:22 aka 5:54 (try not to be so obvious in your overt thumbs upping of your own posts, pal)
ReplyDeleteIf the ratings, etc. have no effect on your stance (i.e., empirical data), then nothing will. You're a blowhard with an agenda. A sad, Sisyphean agenda, but an agenda nonetheless.
@blergoyen
Of course Corby has his drawbacks and there are many legit complaints to be made. You sum up the gist of his sins nicely: little to no prep, a lack of accountability where facts are concerned, and an ignorance of certain topics while deigning to speak authoritatively on them. He's guilty as charged. However, if you step back and take a look at all of the hosts, they too are guilty of these same charges. And yes, that includes Bob and Jake. (I'm not sure why those two are perceived my many as being infallible; both speak out of their asses on many subjects; I guess when you speak in a baritone and with a tone of apodictic certainty, people tend to take everything you say prima facie as correct.) I think with Corby, he does these things (i) in prime time, (ii) the subject matter [current pop culture] is such that most of us already know the answer or have a good working knowledge of and therefore can see the b.s. a mile away, and (iii) the fact that he presents it in a sort of nasally, bitchy way that reminds of you of all the frat guys you couldn't stand while in college or the popular jerks who treated you like ass in high school. Ceteris paribus, in reality he's not that much different in the above regards to any other host.
I agree with the anon above me. Corby certainly has his weaknesses and he's on a beloved show in drive time so he's a bigger target and the seat is hotter for him.
ReplyDeleteBut I also want to point out that by the time THL rolls around, unless there's been breaking news in mid-day, they're discussing the same stories we already saw on TV/read on a website/heard the Musers and BaD discuss. I like ENews but it does feel old by the time they get around to the stories of the day.
I agree with the thing about how there's lots of musicians who sell lots of records and sell out arenas and are crap. Numbers aren't a litmus test of quality. I think the numbers come into play when certain people are saying "oh Corby is DEFINITELY out of there when Mike leaves". Like it or not, the numbers would lead me (and others) to believe that the station would not want to replace someone who is partially responsible for bringing those numbers in.
Maybe I'm in the minority (though I suspect I am not) for believing that the station is headed in a good direction and that direction includes Corby, Jake et al. I'm happy to listen to Mike and Corby every day and I'm open and interested in hearing the future of Corby and whomever once Mike leaves. Which btw I don't see happening anytime soon.
Another thing I would like folks to recall is that Corby gets much, much better reviews across the board when he is either (1) running THL without Mike, or (2) filling in on another show. A Hardline with him and another, almost any other, including Danny or Jake or Bob, would probably be a pretty good show.
ReplyDeleteMm . . . maybe not the "Corby and Dan Show."
Although, you know, now that I think about it, I think Corby + Dan might have some potential. Not too sportsy, but possibly fun.
Having said that, I don't think Mike is going anywhere any time soon any more than I think Norm is, and Norm isn't.
Nothing lasts forever, but the recent musical chairs doesn't strike me as an appetizer for any imminent additional changes.
Good riddance to Gribble. That leaves SeaBass as my most hated Ticket personality. The dude comes off like a smug, humorless, red-ass about everything. Hopefully, Jake will distance from him forthwith.
ReplyDeleteStop holding your breath. The Musers are airborne (Gordo tweets).
ReplyDeleteI absolutely do not understand the number and vehemence of the anti-Bass comments. I have no idea of how he's viewed by his Ticket colleagues, but I don't hear the on-air evidence of the bad qualities attributed to him here -- at least not any more visible than those same characteristics in other hosts, Tickermen, specialty-show hosts, and the like.
ReplyDeleteHe's not an enormous fan of this site, but who is at The Ticket? Sean seems to me to be an extremely solid contributor, and The Shake Joint has established itself quickly as a polished, entertaining weekend show with potential for greater things.
Something going on out there with Sean of which Your Plainsman should be made aware?
Sean Bass is solid. Yes he can get full of himself every now and again. Exactly which Ticket personality doesn't? Name one, please. You can't. Overall he delivers balanced sports analysis and has become a serious advocate for the prevention of drunken driving. What's so bad about either of those things? Not a thing, that's what. So you don't like Sean Bass. You've made your voice known at least three times on this thread alone. We get it. Now either move on to another topic or move on to another blog's combox to hear your head rattle. Because at this point, that's all you've done here.
ReplyDelete107, I don't necessarily think it's one guy posting over and over. We had an anti-Bass outbreak a month or so back from a number of commenters. Took me by surprise.
ReplyDelete@ Plainsman
ReplyDeleteOf course you defend Sean Basskins, you defend TC for chrissakes! In fact, you consistently honor everything KTCK does. Sure, you'll harp on some spots now and then, or a weekend program, but you're the leader of the blind.
Gribs has been wanting out for a while, he, like all the third tier guys at the ticket (along with Jake and Sean both) knocked on the Fan's door pretty loudly.
11:09....ooooowww...vewy impwessive! Big boy been to cowwege! LOL!!
ReplyDeleteWe don't understand the negative Sea Bass sentiment either. He is a solid contributor in all 3 phases. Guys like Sea Bass and TC are a lot of the reason for Jake's recent success. Jake needs those guys, without them things like Its Just Banter and The Shake Joint don't exist.
ReplyDeleteI will be sad to see Tom go. As someone else pointed out, his one-liners could really crack me up. (And seriously, Plainsman, see if the UnTicket has the egg salad sandwich drop.) Maybe it's Tom's voice. It has a Simpsons-esque quality to it that, while I cannot stand in Norm, I can appreciate it in him. It's almost the hasn't-quite-hit-puberty-Peter-Brady-"Time-to-Change" voice. I find it endearing.
ReplyDeleteI am not that big of a fan of Jake, but mainly because it can be hard to accept the change that comes with a radio station being on the air for twenty years. I got in on the very tail end of Greggo so the switch to Corby never bothered me. The Musers have stayed the same since I started listening, as has BaD Radio. I really have no vested interest in the board-ops and producers and Saturday fill-ins that have been coming and going as of late. I figure I'll get used to more of Jake and Mino, and then they'll go on to something else.
I don't know what all the bashing of Sean Bass is about, but I do get there is a certain sense of arrogance about him. My opinion of him changed once he called Michael Young a "sub-par" player on White Elephant Day a few years ago. (I sent him a strongly-worded email about that, thank you very much.) But my opinion of him changed again after he lost his girlfriend in that drunk-driving accident. I recognized him as being human, as opposed to this radio figure that was intangible. I don't give him a free pass on all his opinions because of this (Let him say one more bad thing about Michael Young...), but it helps me to take a step back and realize that all of our favorite hosts, board-ops, Ticket Ticker guys, producers, etc., are real life people who are not always as large as their radio counterparts.
Stay hard, Scoops!
@Plainsman
ReplyDeleteYou are correct; there has been a few anti-Sean outbursts over the past 6 months. However, this spate the writing style bears the mark of one individual. You can see this, plainly, in the 1:45 and 2:09 comments that follow your last (1:09) comment. It's sad, it's pathetic, it's opaque in intention, but unfortunately it's the internet. The internet: where cowards with small minds put on display, for all to see, their sad psychopathologies.
I'm the 12:40 anti-Bass commenter and I've never commented on him before. I saw some other negative comments about him and I wanted to chime in on that side. No conspiracy. He seems like a hard-on and I don't like his broadcasting. And I'm not kidding.
ReplyDeleteI am another poster who has frequently voiced my dislike of Sean Bass. For a long time, I couldn't put my finger on it, but recently I realize it's because he seems like such a wanna-be. I realize Corby, Gordon, Jake, Danny, etc. are all liberal blowhards, but they seem genuine and sincere. Bass seems like he is a little too quick to make sure everybody knows how hip and progressive he is, and it comes off like he's trying too hard to be cool. It's like the dork in high school who follows the cool kids around and just repeats everything they say.
ReplyDeleteAnd every time a baseball discussion breaks out on any show he's on, he is so quick to butt into the conversation so everybody knows just how much of a baseball guy he is. Ok dude, you know how to calculate WAR and you host a baseball postgame show, but that doesn't automatically make you the authority on baseball in this town.
I beg the Catman not to put him in any kind of weekday hosting duties when Norm or another host leaves. If that happens it will be the 1st time in 20 years I won't be able to listen to the Ticket all day.
Well Jonaessa, in 2012 Michael Young happened to be the 2nd worst player in all of baseball. (ducks)
ReplyDeletehttp://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/09/14/and-the-award-for-the-worst-player-in-baseball-goes-to/
I'm not the biggest Sean Bass fan, b/c he doesn't make me laugh, which is a requirement for me to like you on the radio. He does know his baseball though, there's no denying that.
ReplyDeleteDang. What's the dealio with all the Seabass hatin'? He's does Tickers, hosts a postgame show that's aired late weeknights for a few months and not even aired all that much, and he co hosts a Sunday morning show with a dude that everyone seems to thinks s***s golden eggs. It's pretty easy to not have to deal with him if he bothers you so much. I for one like his bag.
ReplyDelete@209 So when someone writes well you want to make fun of them? What's wrong with you man? If you disagree then say why. LOL. Really? How played out is that? How played out are you? You seem mad, bro. Are you? Why?
ReplyDelete@8:07 "You seem mad bro. Are you? Why?"....hmm..I've read that before somewhere. Wait a minu...it can't be...are..are you...the same blowhard, turdbucket takin up for Corby a few threads back?!! Is this Corby's cousin?
ReplyDeleteI am a strictly Monday through Friday P1. I don't find myself at the dial on the weekend, mainly because I have the family with me. Therefore, I don't hear Sea Bass enough to dislike him. He's alright in my book until I've been proven otherwise and what he does during the work week isn't enough. I've also said before on this blog that Corby has a place at the Ticket. I like him...just not as a full time host. Maybe a third host or, as Plains man said, put him on another show and I could stomach more of him. I really think their ratings stay steady because they really haven't changed over the years. They've eased both Danny and Corby in their roles (Corby was on the air a lot when Greggo was here), although with Corby it was more so than Danny. That's when I started disliking him...When Greggo left. He had this haughty attitude and was very unforgiving of Greggo back in the day. The haughtiness has just gotten stronger and it almost seems like he tries to be that way to get a certain stature. Like he's thinking, "this is how I'll make a name for myself." He seems to do it for spite. Enough Negative Nancy. Maybe the next thread will have a more uplifting atmosphere.
ReplyDeleteAnother thing. I've said it before but this ain't the place for people to be arguing and flaming. Especially if you can't come out from behind your Anon status. That's just writing crap and seeing what sticks to the walls.
ReplyDeleteAnon 1:45...care to elaborate on your comment about Tom, Jake & Sean knocking loudly at The Fans door? I have ZERO inside info, but I just cant believe The Fan (and Ben & Skin specifically) wouldn't jump at the chance to scoop up Jake as a Producer and/or significant voice.
ReplyDeleteIn fact, when B&S landed at 1053 I just kind of assumed they at least reached out to Jake.
Can anyone provide any thought on why TC was not offered the board op job over Mino? I assume that is a better position than hosting the top 10, right?
ReplyDeleteYeah, the Hardline needs some personality at that Board op spot. They had it with Expo, Psycho, and certainly Grubes.
ReplyDeleteLet Mino breathe. He is a huge P1 most likely and he doesn't want to overstep his bounds too soon so it will take a little while for him to get situated but i assure you he will fit right in. I think TC is comfortable in the position he is in. Think about it he practically has his own show. I don't think he is too worried about not getting the board op gig. Corby is fine and will always stay at the Hardline. There is no big beef between Sean and Jake. Boom Roasted.
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ReplyDeleteEverything you said, but opposite. There. It has the same amount of weight as your claims. Substance, folks. Reasons. SOMETHING other than the home movies projecting from your minds.
Well whats the point of this forum if everyone is going to debunk everyone elses post. How do you know i dont work at the station and know those people personally? How do you know im not TC or Sean.
ReplyDeleteThere's a forum for those looking to troll and attack people. It's GIML.com.
ReplyDeletebow up, T4
ReplyDeleteWow, I make MTC a daily stop for all things P1 and to see if there's anything I missed in the world of theories and fantasy hostings ideas, but I didn't think it would escalate or better yet devolve into this angry, bitter, frustrated, "I'm right and you're wrong. No, I'M right and YOU'RE wrong" kind of talk.
ReplyDeleteCome on guys, it's radio. It's the Ticket. It's the guys we know and love to hang out with while talking sports and all that implies. Let's lift the guys up and be grateful we live in an area where we're not FORCED to listen to ESPN or The Fan because of the lack of options.
We're all black friends.
Hey guys. Haha, oh boy. T4 and Big Unit are just funnin' around. Those are some of the hijinks you can expect at www.grubesismyleader.com . Good times.
ReplyDeleteWell anyways, we have an AMA with the Cumulus janitor coming up. So stop on by and talk in nothing but Ticket drops.
XOXO
Once again, T4, GIML was created for fans of BaD Radio to come and discuss The Ticket. It was not created for rivals of GIML to post chase with "your forum sucks."
ReplyDelete#jeffheath4life
timbo23- shut up, bitch.
ReplyDeleteHave you seen my........baseball?
ReplyDeleteI realize this thread has veered way off the path, but I just wanted it to reach 100 comments......AND BEG Plainsman to revisit the required name requirement. Any chance Plainsman?
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