Awhile back Bob Sturm was flogging George DiGianni's 21 Day Makeover and Full Body Cleanse, which he said he would return to when he was feeling a little "doughy." "Doughy" and "cleanse" are not two words I care to associate with the Admirable Bob, but I must say that I had gotten to feeling a little doughy myself. I'm not a young chap any longer and it began to dawn on me that I couldn't continue to eat fast food and snacks and watch it burn off the next day. I'm tallish and carry weight pretty well, but when the scale got up to 223 . . . .
I didn't need to lose a ton -- 30, 35 pounds or so would be about right. I hadn't tried any commercial remedies except fen-phen, a way long time ago, before they took it off the market (worked great, coupla pills, the weight would come off mostly in the form of sweat and stress and a loss of appetite). Wait, I also tried Fit Foods, which gets people to lose weight by selling them food they really don't want to eat. Too much kale and quinoa. Sorry.
But I must say that Jason "Killer" Kellison's ads for SOTA Weight Loss sounded pretty interesting. I would think it would be tough to lose weight working in a show-bizzy atmosphere what with sponsor catering and grabbing food at odd hours and the like. And that result from a guy who apparently needed to lose a lot more than I did . . . .
So I gave it a try and I'm here to give you a report.
Here's how it works:
You go in and get weighed up. You talk to a counselor about how much weight you would ideally like to lose. More about the counselors below.
They estimate about how long it will take you to lose the weight on the program.
They give you all the food you will need on a week-to-week basis, with two exceptions to be noted. You get to pick the food from their "pantry": 7 "snacky" items, 21 "mealish" items, 28 total items for four eating events per day, up until evening dinner, for a week. You'll see this illustrated below. More about dinner in a moment.
They tell you what you may eat in substitution, and how often and in what amounts, if you must stray from the strict program. Eggs are usually a safe substitute, but there are others. Some you may substitute infrequently or in limited amounts.
They tell you when and how often to eat it. You are to eat a breakfast, a snack, lunch, an afternoon snack -- those are the four SOTA eating events -- and for dinner, a small serving, fist-sized, 6 ounces, of any meat of your choice -- they're not too specific on how it may be prepared, so I sneak in a couple of KFC thighs now and then -- and a couple of cups of vegetables, but not just any vegetables -- only the ones without sugar, like asparagus, broccoli, and cauliflower. (No peas, carrots, corn, the good stuff.) Those are the two exceptions, the evening meat (sometimes I have it for lunch instead) and some vegetables. They would also like you to have a couple of cups of vegetables for lunch, which I usually skip because it's a pain to prepare that stuff in an office.
They tell you what you may not eat -- fruits, lay off the wine and beer (modest spirits allowed, I'm a gin man myself), many other sweetie and salty carby things. Breads, potatoes, starchy things.
And a half-hour daily of light exercise -- nothing too strenuous, nothing to trigger too much hunger but enough to get your heart rate up once a day. A brisk walk will do, although I find that more exercise does not increase my hunger.
And then you go eat that and come back next week and weigh in and get coached up and fill your order for the next week's food. In the meantime, you must keep a diary of everything you eat and when and your exercise and water consumption for them to review when you come in for your up-coaching. They give you a form to use but I created my own Excel spreadsheet. Cheating should be recorded.
Now take a look at this: With the exception of the vegetables and meat that you supply THIS IS EVERYTHING YOU EAT FOR A WEEK up through the afternoon snack. I've laid out a typical seven-day regimen, the four SOTA "meals" you eat up until the evening meal.
With the exception of the bars and the chips -- note you may only eat one of one of those each day -- but including the stuff in the bottles, and I guess that cereal, ALL OF THAT IS POWDER. (Eat the cereal with half-and-half. Surprised? No carbs in half-and-half.) Low carbohydrate, high-protein, powder, to be mixed with water for your meal. You can eat any of them at any time -- that is, you don't have to have cereal for breakfast, and you don't have to have soup for lunch. You could reverse them if you want, or have a shake for breakfast or lunch or a snack. But not more than one chip or bar a day.
MEN AND WOMEN, IF THAT'S ALL YOU EAT UP TO YOUR EVENING MEAL, AND YOU DON'T CHEAT, YOUR BODY WILL HAVE NO CHOICE BUT TO SHED FAT, AND A LOT OF IT, AND FAST.
And I did. I lost that 30 pounds. And I cheated a bit. I've done two stints. The first time I lost about 25-30, kept it off for a long time, but had a stretch of travel and vacations and other celebrations that put 5-7 back on, so I went back for a tuneup and took off another 10-15 or so. Just finishing it up, and I am back to how much I weighed about 20 years ago and still losing. Feel good, much more energy, and look a lot better. Man, I feel better just walking down the hall -- I can tell I'm not hauling nearly as much suet. I can tie my shoes without gasping for breath. I just went for a five-mile jog without working too hard when formerly I'd be stopping to catch my breath after a half-block.
Doesn't look like much food, does it? Will you get hungry? Possibly, but I didn't, really. The first couple of days may see you have a pang or two, but they will pass.
The ads are accurate. You will almost certainly lose more than 5 pounds the first week. The rate of loss is likely to slow after that, although if you're really religious and don't cheat, you should keep losing at a good clip. But if you lose two pounds a week, that's still double the rate you'll lose on most other programs.
The food, although not substantial, is generally palatable. The chips and bars are good. The chicken and beef bullion ditto. I did not care for the chili or some of the other soups. The pancake -- no, a terrible mess in the pan. It refused to cook; tried it a few times. The shakes (the bottles) are very good. Some of the mixtures are difficult to dissolve (the cream of chicken, which, when dissolved, is perfectly good, but watch for the bergs of undissolved powder). And at night, you can have your fish or chicken breast or meat patty or filet mignon or whatever youw ant and some vegetables (they encourage the use of butter on the vegs). For meat, I sometimes even use zero-carb weenies (Nathan's my favorite, zero carbohydrates) or sardines/smoked oysters (ditto). Eggs for dinner also a frequent choice.
How much does it cost? A lot. The more you want to lose, the longer you need to be on the program, and you have to pay it all up front -- an incentive to stay the course. It clocks in at about $225 a week, $30-$35 bucks a day. But remember -- they're giving you your food for most of your day. You really do spend less on groceries (no snacks, beer, other forbidden fruits.) They're coaching you up once a week. And after that's over, there's free counseling thereafter. And really -- how much do you want to lose weight, safely, without surgery? Being fat is really, really awful and it is hard to cure. Fat shaming is out, but hell, you know what people think about you if you're grossly unsightly fat? And you know what you think of yourself, and of other fatsos. And, hormonal problems aside, you're both right. You're just fat. SOTA gets it off quickly and safely, if not thrillingly. Its quick results at the outset have got to be one reason people are flocking to it -- there's little waiting to see the pounds start to come off.
(There's also a machine they want you to stand on that shakes up the system a bit, but if you think it looks silly they'll confide in you that it's mostly for older adults whose joints need a little persuading.)
Ah, the counseling. SOTA's secret weapon -- the Cute Chick Counselors. At my location, all of the counselors are young women, or very fit and attractive women of a certain age. You will probably see a different one each week. And when your day to weigh in rolls around, you become very aware of NOT WANTING TO DISAPPOINT THE CUTE CHICK COUNSELORS. Oh, no, you do not want them to see that you've cheated, because if you come in and you haven't lost anything and no cheating shows up on your food diary, they will know you are the worst kind of black liar and the Cute Chick Counselor will be oh, so disappointed. In general, they are as Killer and Ty and others have said -- very supportive, very encouraging, nice, full of tips and tricks and recipes you will ignore because you're a guy and you're not going to do recipes or use those awful, awful no-cal salad dressings they urge you to try to add flavor. Walden Farms, yeah, them's the ones. And the Stevia sugar substitute for your coffee -- both lethal. But you listen and nod your head because they're Cute Chick Counselors and you want them to approve of you.
The one problem I had with the program -- it's boring after a few weeks. After you've lost some weight, the temptation to cheat grows. Resist it if you can, but if you must, make it just a little. Next day you step on the scale, you've put on a pound. You're remorseful. You think about the Cute Chick Counselors. You resolve not to cheat. You fail, a little. But not enough, and the weight will start to come off again.
One thing I wonder about the man/woman on the street is: How does this work if you have a family eating regular meals? How does it work if you don't have a gig that allows you to visit SOTA during their (only) daytime hours? The weekly check-in is mandatory -- if you don't go, you don't get the next week's chow, and the weigh-in is essential to determine effectiveness.
Will it change the way you eat and live, like Killer says? If you go to the continued free coaching, like he says he does, and I think Ty has also taken advantage of, then probably. Me? I have not taken advantage of the free post-program counseling, but the SOTA program has been invaluable in reminding me that the Atkins Diet had it right all those years ago -- carbohydrates make you fat. Calories less important. Snacks and certain foods have lots of carbohyrdates. Find things to eat that don't have high carbs. Eat them, not the carb things. Eat less of them. You'll lose weight and keep it off. Exercise -- good for lots of things, but won't help you much with weight loss.
Being off SOTA has not stopped my craving for Chili-Cheese Fritos and the Taco Bell Combo #3 and Peanut M&Ms, but I'll tell you this -- when I was off the program, I stopped stuffing myself at every meal (felt lousy when I did), made SOTA-friendly choices at most turns, and stopped observing one of my rules, which was "When Food Is Free, You Must Eat as Much of It as Possible." The weight stayed off for a long time, until the aforementioned serial vacations to Hawaii, Chicago, and a Wyoming dude ranch, all within about six weeks, when I departed the wagon too many times.
Nope, best to just stick with the program, eat what they give you, keep cheating really low, pay attention to the permissible substitutes, don't go crazy with the evening meal, and dream about those Cute Chick Counselors.
So I have to thank Killer for his enthusiastic and persuasive endorsement. With a sidelong thanks to Ty and all those P1 telephone endorsers.
Speaking of Killer . . .
He's been doing those ads for a long time. They work. They work on SOTA's target demo -- overweight men approaching middle age who watch more sports than they play.
SOTA has obviously re-upped him as time has gone by.
I think our Killer must be doing pretty well. Thanks, man.
Sorry, Jinj, apples are not on the list. |
It's great that this has worked for you. I have lost 55 lbs since the beginning of the year, and I did it in a way that was free, sans cute chick counselors. I did the following:
ReplyDelete1. Cut down two meals a day, period.
2. I fast one day a week. Nothing but water every Monday, without exception.
3. I minimize carbs, but do not eliminate them. If I must do drive-through fast food, then it's the sandwich only, not a combo, not fries.
4. Cutting out soda seems to be particularly effective.
5. Substitute chips with mixed nuts.
6. One day a week, eat something against the rules, like pancakes or pizza.
I am glad you posted the details of what the SOTA process consists of; I see a lot of overlap between what works for me, and SOTA, at least in principle.
The biggest thing: a successful weight loss program must rely more on reducing the input than on exercise.
The saddest part for me: after losing 55 lbs, my doctor says I'm still 5 lbs overweight. I think he's using a chart from 1950, which ignores BMI amd other factors, but whatever. I'm feeling good and getting lots of remarks from people who have notices the significant loss.
James, that is fantastic. That's similar to what I do when I'm not on the SOTA program. I asked them about nuts, and they said that they don't recommend it for the program (although relatively low-carb) because people tend to eat too many, thinking it's OK. Ditto cheese, which is also permitted on Atkins.
ReplyDeleteThe beauty of SOTA for those less motivated than you is that they give you the damned food and tell you when to damned eat it and tell you not to eat damned anything else other than the substitutes on the list. And the weekly weigh-in -- CCC notwithstanding -- is a big motivator.
Also: Since I've been eating less, I do find it easier to fast, or at least go for long periods of the day without eating or snacking. Tonight, for example, I wasn't all that hungry so just fried up a couple of eggs, and probably could have done without them.
Tomorrow: Next-to-last weigh-in.
But yes -- you can lose weight with any kind of consistent low-carb, eat-less program. And yes, you can do it for free. And yes, exercise is not a major weight-loss tool.
I believe you have a family, right? It's also great to have support for your regimen. Congratulations.
Yes, I have a family who is supportive. Well, the teenagers are kind of oblivious, but that's not surprising. :)
ReplyDeleteThe other factor is that this started when I was laid off. Unemployment has meant that I have a pantry and fridge that offer daily temptations, so it's been harder. But returning to work (which I finally did last week) offers temptations, as well: to eat 3 meals, to eat some combo with fries, to drink soda, to have chips at my desk, etc. I hope it goes well. And I hope your continue to stay disciplined, as well.
I had a quick question on programming particularly the Top 10. I occasionally find myself listening to it in the evenings doing some work around the house. I think this new guy is pretty good. I live on the east coast and typically hit the road for work around 06:00 which with the sports day app, puts me at 04:00 Ticket time. Because we’re pre-Musers, I listen to the Top 10 on my way in. I assumed that the morning addition was just a re-airing of the one taped the night before. This morning I heard Matt Birmingham say “Good morning P1s”. Does anyone know if he does both shows live? If so, that is a brutal schedule. Or is he also the overnight board op? Does he cut his own audio or do the shows offer up segments to him?
ReplyDeleteGood job P-man and James. I just recently lost 60 lbs over a years time. Mine was calorie based, but really just knowing what is in my food. Mayonnaise or cheese on my burger... well, I work out at 15cal/min, so to negate a slice of cheese, that is 6 minutes on the elliptical.
ReplyDeleteAgain, good job and be healthy men, we only get one shot.
Yes, good job James and P-Man.
ReplyDeleteI've been thinking about SOTA as a way to jump start a weight loss stretch. Thanks for the detailed info.
And yes, while my 40ish minute walks in the evening (with my dog) may not do much for weight loss in actual calories burned, etc. it is a big mental motivator for me during the day when time comes to make choices. It is such a mental struggle for me to do the walking after getting home from my 60-75 minute commute that I don't want to throw that away the next day for a side of fries or a coke (vs. tea or water), or whatever. So I think in that regard exercise may do good that can't be accounted for mathematically.
Keep up the good work, y'all.
Keto is free and extremely effective for weight loss
ReplyDeleteI never imagined that I could make it on less than 20g carbs a day but it ended up being not nearly as hard as I thought
I don't know much about Keto, but if it is low on the carbs and you don't starve in the meantime, it's a good plan. I'm glad to hear about folks who have been successful without making the financial investment SOTA requires. But I needed to do it, because I needed a turnkey solution that didn't require much planning or thinking or preparation, and it worked for me.
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ReplyDeleteThey have apparently started doing a Top 10 even if it will only run in the morning. I seem to recall this being discussed at the end of Intentional Grounding last week when they did their show an hour later on the tail end of Guys Night Out. Certainly preferable to the generic network programming that ran until 5:30.
So you're saying that even if The Top Ten doesn't sir due to Stars hockey or GNO, it'll still run the two hours prior to D&M? If so, cool beans!
ReplyDeleteJust remember at the end of the day it is about creating a caloric deficit over whatever amount of calories you have been consuming to get you to the weight you start at. Keto doesnt impart a magical fat burning process but typically when people go on Keto they create a caloric deficit while eating more satiating high fat foods. Also although Keto can be effective for weight loss I would be cautious and point out that no blue zone population (areas where people routinely live to 100 and beyond) practice Keto. In fact all blue zones without exception eat a whole food plant based diet with abundant carbs and limited amounts of animal products. Again the bottom line is 1500 calories a day will keep you thin regardless if those calories are Keto or more carb intensive plant based diet. However only one of these is associated across the board with extreme longevity and it is not Keto.
ReplyDeleteWell I'll guess I might tune in tomorrow to hear Mike's take on Whitey Bulger's death. I kinda got saturated with Cowboys talk today on DaC and clicked on Corby's detainment news seg. Unsurprisingly, he's still harping on poor ol Louis CK. I don't give a crap about what half of these guy have done! This #Metoo bullshit has gotten so derailed! It's gone from legitimate Cosby, Lauer, and Weinstein perversion, to total time wasting BS! First off, most of your artistic, talented [something Corby knows nothing about] people have always been somewhat freakish! You know who I feel sorry for, not the ol hens that saw Louis pull his dingus out, but Louis's little 10 and 11 year olds that now have to hear about daddy's stupidity.
ReplyDelete11:10, I'm sure you are correct and it sounds like you know what you're talking about. I know you're right about the "caloric deficit required for weight loss," but my own experience is that it's tough to get calories to that level, and there's a temptation to think that you're burning more on a daily basis that you are -- the daily deficit is difficult to estimate, whereas it is not nearly as difficult to observe and reduce carbohydrates while still eating foods that satisfy.
ReplyDeleteI don't have a lot of time to spend on Twitter, but a TC Fleming tweet caught my eye. He reported doing a food delivery to some schmoe who wasn't home and he found a workaround to complete the delivery. Subsequent tweets established that he's keeping the homefires burning with outside work "between now and when I take over for Soros." Someone replied and asked why he didn't continue working at the station while picking up extra money doing some of these other things, and his response was "because I really didn't like working there."
ReplyDeleteMy knee-jerk reaction is that TC probably didn't think we was getting the respect he deserved. Must have fancied himself as the second coming of Michael Gruber. I still don't understand why the Catman took him back in the first place.
ReplyDeleteHe had known skills that could be used in various roles at the station. More important, I'm speculating, Bob and Dan just liked the guy and supported his return.
ReplyDeleteIt's tough to start up a startup, and good for him that he's doing what he has to do to support his household while he's trying to get it underway.
I'm not sure why he didn't like working there. Notably popular with some colleagues, notably not with others, but his spot seemed pretty secure.
Anyway, hope his venture gets some traction, whatever it is.
With all due respect to TC and his contributions to the Ticket over the years, I find Julie's witty and good nature contributions to BaD to be very refreshing. She is knocking it out of the park in my opinion. Her interplay with Dan is particularly good.
ReplyDeleteJames, when you fast on Mondays, when is your last meal before Monday and when do you eat again? How did the weight come off? For instance, 20lbs the first month and then it slowed down, or a steady 10lbs per month? Just curious.
ReplyDeletePeople who think TC could have tried his hand at a start up business venture and kept his job at The Ticket at the same time probably haven't thought it through too deeply. You can't just up and leave your job for a few months and then come back with no promise you'll stick around long term. That's not really an issue with Uber or Lyft.
ReplyDelete9:13, I eat supper Sunday, then don't eat again till Tuesday morning. I started fasting in late January for reasons other than weight loss, but it's obviously helped me lose weight.
ReplyDeleteYes, the pounds came off much easier at first. Maybe 15 lbs the first month. 45 lbs in 6 months (July 21). About 11-12 lbs since then. According to the BMI chart, I still 3 lbs overweight :)
@James
ReplyDeleteHow strict is that fast? I mean, water and black coffee ok, or absolutely nothing, not even water?
Footnote: I drink coffee in the morning for the safety of others.
I decided to go with water only. Feel free to do what works for you, of course. No set rules.
ReplyDeleteFor those who want to delve deeper into fasting I encourage you to check out the work of Dr. Valter Longo head of the Longevity Institute at USC and widely considered the foremost expert in the world on longevity. His institute has done extensive research on the fast mimicking diet which is basically a 5 day long protocol of water, tea and a very small amount of Omega 3 fats and some fibrous carbs. Very low protein. The secret here is the body is tricked into thinking it is fasting when calories fall into the 500 to 700 calorie per day range and all the magical things that happen after day 3 which includes the body's cannibalization of old cells, white blood cells and other damaged cells followed by the regeneration of fresh stem cells upon full refeeding on day 6. Fascinating research that is being done by Dr. Longo and team. Dr. Longo's premise is that to maximize longevity you must moderate protein consumption and heavy protein loading leads to increase in IGF-1, MToR and other hormonal responses that expedites the aging process at the cellular level.
ReplyDeleteEasy on the meat consumption fellow Ticket heads - you may lose some weight in the short term on a meat-centric diet but isn't conducive to good longevity probabilities - I'm just sayin...
Tried listening to the post game show but not a very good show when the hosts are drunk.
ReplyDeleteSo I get to live 5 or 6 years longer by severely limiting my meat consumption for the rest of my now-extended life? That's what I call a lose-lose proposition.
ReplyDeleteOh my god....hockey...really?!
ReplyDeleteAt what point do you come to grips with the fact that they're the radio home of the Stars, and therefore they air all the games? Bad shtick, chief, move onto your next trick.
ReplyDeleteChief!
ReplyDeleteCould not get through 840 bit without Gordo shoehorning his pet socio-cultural hobby horse transsexuality into the Touchdown Brothers. I don’t begrudge him the freedom, but of course we are also free to punch out. As I find myself doing more rapidly on my diminishing drive-by check ins on the channel....
ReplyDeleteUsed to tell friends that we would see Gordo one day on a much bigger stage, for sure considered him the top talent at the Ticket. At this point I’m reaching for the podcast app pretty quickly when he gets the mic...
I have noticed that I have been punching out much more often of all the shows in the last few months, it used to be just the Hardline. If I don't like a segment/topic/host I just move on. I guess everything has a shelf life even radio stations.
ReplyDeleteUsed to be a Day 1 P One...... Now just a Day 1.
352 and Ed: When you punch out, do you stop listening to the radio (or stream, or whatever) or do you switch to Fan, ESPN? News? Music? Satellite?
ReplyDelete3:52 here.... I have been going to the 105.3 G-bag nation ( they are really pretty good, very strong knowledge and they make me laugh). I go back to Bad Radio but can't do the 1:30 news and most of the audio segments that Dan does. I do flip back in forth between G-bag and Bad Radio trying to catch the good. After 3:00 I go to DAK on ESPN but can only handle Steve Dennis for so long. I can only do very small amounts of Ben and Skin. I keep trying to go back to the Hardline but am normally out within 5 minutes because they have very little that I like and their personalities drive me away (ill-prepared and very little knowledge).
ReplyDeleteI would like to see a line up of, The Musers with little amounts of Gordan, G-bag mid-days and Bad Radio in drive time.
I am 50 so maybe it is just that I am at the end of the right demo.
Podcast here typically. Next time I come back to the channel is just next time I’m in the car...
ReplyDeleteI just go to music myself.
ReplyDeleteMid 50's here. I stopped listening to the Hardline about 3 years ago. I listen to podcasts or my music during my afternoon drive. I have an old iPhone that stays in the car that can hit my wifi and update podcasts from the garage.
ReplyDeleteI'm still pretty much a P1 for the Musers in the morning, but I have switched over to KRLD occasionally if they have something/someone that I'm not interested in. I've found that I can get my sports updates in the morning for the most part. If something breaks during the day, I'll find out details elsewhere without having to fight through segments like Corby telling me What's On Mike's Mind or telling us about his latest kick-ass vacation or music festival.
I suppose that I'm not in the highly coveted demographic any longer and I'm ok with that.
I still like Gordon and pretty much everyone except Norm. I mean, I like Norm as a person, just can't listen to him very long. But back to the point: Gordon's schtick hasn't moved me to change the station yet. The main impetus for me to tune out these days is basketball or hockey talk.
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ReplyDeleteYou talked about the provided food & even posted a picture of it. Curious... do you think it’s produced and distributed by SOTA or can it be bought from a company that sales to individuals?
ReplyDeleteBariwise food products.
DeleteUnknown: To the best of my knowledge, these packaged items cannot be purchased elsewhere. However, they are not exotic. You can probably find high-protein, low-carb powdered food lots of places. My guess is that they specify the nutritional content and flavoring and have a third party manufacture them. Although I don't recall that these envelopes and other items (protein bars, popcorn) were SOTA-branded. I will say that I think the weekly appointments to weigh you are strong motivators to stick to the program and not to cheat. It's been a couple of years now, and the weight is still off.
ReplyDeleteSo you have to pay for the meals up front? Like a weeks worth or month or what?
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