A home for those who love almost everything about The Ticket (1310 AM, 96.7 FM, Dallas-Fort Worth), and who would like to discuss -- respectfully and fondly -- their thoughts on how (and whether) to eliminate the "almost."
It's getting hard to find new reds. I've used hundreds, and I see old friends when I search on Google. (And, as one Confessor pointed out, I slipped up and repeated one not long ago.) Way too many AI images. Most are obvious to people who are online a lot, but some are really good.
I don't know if there are any actual media pros in here, but I'm still intrigued by what the future might look like, and if Cumulus and The Ticket care. I'm not an insider at all. Just a listener. I'm sure the biz model is still working wonderfully for TT. The ratings are so good that it's a great spot for advertisers. What does management think going forward? A) Keep it as is for as long as we can and milk the cow? B) Shift more aggressively to a podcast model, which may extend your talent? C) ?? Are there some media pros here who have an option C?
I'm not interested in speculating when folks are going to hang it up, but it will happen one day. What next? Based on the drop in mid day listening, I'm not confident the train can keep chugging if they don't start making some changes now. OR, am I naive to radio? The reality is you put folks in a slot and let the listeners' ears tune to the new guys, coach 'em up, and we'll soon forget the old folks?
I'm genuinely fascinated by this, and throwing some content out there for you Plainsman. Happy Saturday to all. Even emoji guy!
There was a post from Bass on X not too long ago that they’d signed new contracts. So I think they’re doing well enough to keep them around. And I think the thing that most people don’t know is how much of the advertising is concentrated in AMD and PMD. Middays are nice if you’re making money there, but advertisers are buying times when people are in cars. The Fan does reasonably well, but outside of Cowboys season they drop further behind the ticket. Heck, even in cowboys season they do fine on the Mon-sun 6a-mid numbers, but as you narrow that to m-f and especially m-f prime, ie 6a-7p, they drop further behind. So the fan has a glass ceiling, and until they break it I think the ticket is safe. There’s not really Ron for a 3rd sport station, see 103-3, and there’s not a market for what was once known as hot talk, or general guy talk, see 97-1. White Elephant is the last day of the Dec ratings. But the ticket still does well in the holiday book (so Dec calendar month) with a host of b-teamers, fill ins , etc. might it be different once the musers leave? Sure. As goes mornings, so goes the day. But inertia is also a hell of a thing. C
They’re the most popular pm drive show on the most popular station in town. Which also happens to be the highest billing radio station in the market. I don’t get the “they need to podcast” folks. They’re all being well paid to do radio. Until the overall station ratings tank, why would any of them upset the apple cart. C
Thanks C, I wanted to collectively speculate the play post Musers, because in its current form, you're right. But when (and I'm not interested in trying to guess that), what then? Can the HL sustain the whole enchilada?
I don't see the HL going much longer than the Musers. I can see Bob going on but I've always gotten the impression that Corby will get out early enough to enjoy his retirement. i don't see the station surviving the post Muser era, whenever that happens, in a recognizable form.
Tracks. Using that timeframe as a guide, I would guess we have roughly two years remaining of Dunham and Miller in AM Drive.
Sort of related. Been listening to all 11 CdS Danny/Mike pods on the state of The Ticket and DFW radio. They have one more that's all Ticket (about their exits). After that, they move into The Freak era. I have a lot of thoughts, and they are mixed to say the least. Waiting until they complete the entire arc before I post up a long form series of comments. Should be sometime in May. I know, bated breath and all.
Because every ad agency in town still gets ratings with all stations listed. Neilsen isn’t dumb enough to try to tell advertisers, who also pay for their service, that the station that’s been on a dominant run the last few years suddenly has zero listeners. The cumulus stations may not be listed in the publically released info, but Neilden still knows exactly what ratings and share the Cumulus stations have. Cumulus can’t use Neilsen ratings to sell advertising, but that doesn’t stop ad agencies from using the same data to buy radio advertising. C
Or items from Mexico, Canada, Columbia, the UK, Iraqi, Denmark, Italy, or Japan. Do you get upset at people selling Babe Ruth and Ty Cobb baseball cards too? Do yo uget upset about the Daughters of the American Revolution doing Wreaths Across America or the Daughters of the Republic of Texas, too?
I think I would have told my web designer to put pictures of my American or British memorabilia, rather than WW 2 Germany up. I'm sure there are legitimate reasons for collecting those items that don't involve being a fan of the Nazi's but even as much of a militrary history fan as I am I would steer clear of Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan for my personal collection.
DJ now the voice of TW on The Ticket. He claims they built a plan for him and didn't include any unnecessary products. I bet a dollar TW put him in high commission annuities which 100 percent are horrible investments for low and middle income Ticket producers. Although they are promising 30 percent bonuses.
Richie Twitt was correct all along. Will the duplicity and machinations of Jake and Dan ever come to light? No way. They played Cumulus, some coworkers, and their audience like a cheap violin. And almost got their desired outcome. Too bad they didn't land the eagle. Would've been an all around win for the market. Instead, we get a 57 year old detailing his bate seshes and the smartest guy in the room who gets everything wrong, always. Too bad for us.
He's taken off for the Fiesta in San Antonio with his family for 3 years now. We'll get some fun fill ins like Doocy and Monty. If that keeps Junior for a few more years, I'm fine with the trade off.
I'm fine with the Musers having time off. They are still far and away the best thing on the in the morning, IMO. When they are on they are great and when they aren't there I catch up on Podcast. Its all good for me.
Awfully quiet around here.
ReplyDeletePerhaps my fault for not coming up with any new Scorching Ticket Disquisitions.
I'll put my mind to it on my return, see if we can't get some quality left-handed pitching in here.
Angie Everheart. Nice red Pman!
ReplyDeleteSmoking hot offering this time well done
ReplyDeleteOne hot piece O ass. Lvin' it.
ReplyDeleteIt's getting hard to find new reds. I've used hundreds, and I see old friends when I search on Google. (And, as one Confessor pointed out, I slipped up and repeated one not long ago.) Way too many AI images. Most are obvious to people who are online a lot, but some are really good.
ReplyDeleteI don't know if there are any actual media pros in here, but I'm still intrigued by what the future might look like, and if Cumulus and The Ticket care. I'm not an insider at all. Just a listener. I'm sure the biz model is still working wonderfully for TT. The ratings are so good that it's a great spot for advertisers. What does management think going forward? A) Keep it as is for as long as we can and milk the cow? B) Shift more aggressively to a podcast model, which may extend your talent? C) ?? Are there some media pros here who have an option C?
ReplyDeleteI'm not interested in speculating when folks are going to hang it up, but it will happen one day. What next? Based on the drop in mid day listening, I'm not confident the train can keep chugging if they don't start making some changes now. OR, am I naive to radio? The reality is you put folks in a slot and let the listeners' ears tune to the new guys, coach 'em up, and we'll soon forget the old folks?
I'm genuinely fascinated by this, and throwing some content out there for you Plainsman. Happy Saturday to all. Even emoji guy!
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ReplyDeleteThere was a post from Bass on X not too long ago that they’d signed new contracts. So I think they’re doing well enough to keep them around. And I think the thing that most people don’t know is how much of the advertising is concentrated in AMD and PMD. Middays are nice if you’re making money there, but advertisers are buying times when people are in cars.
The Fan does reasonably well, but outside of Cowboys season they drop further behind the ticket. Heck, even in cowboys season they do fine on the Mon-sun 6a-mid numbers, but as you narrow that to m-f and especially m-f prime, ie 6a-7p, they drop further behind. So the fan has a glass ceiling, and until they break it I think the ticket is safe. There’s not really Ron for a 3rd sport station, see 103-3, and there’s not a market for what was once known as hot talk, or general guy talk, see 97-1.
White Elephant is the last day of the Dec ratings. But the ticket still does well in the holiday book (so Dec calendar month) with a host of b-teamers, fill ins , etc.
might it be different once the musers leave? Sure. As goes mornings, so goes the day. But inertia is also a hell of a thing.
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Cool story. Tell it again.
DeleteThanks C. Perhaps unfortunately for the hardline, I think you're right re: mornings. Hence, I think a pivot medium-wise needs to happen.
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DeleteThey’re the most popular pm drive show on the most popular station in town. Which also happens to be the highest billing radio station in the market. I don’t get the “they need to podcast” folks. They’re all being well paid to do radio. Until the overall station ratings tank, why would any of them upset the apple cart.
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How do you know they’re the most popular drive time show? They don’t participate in ratings any more.
DeleteDenial of how much the product has slipped is kinda sad.
DeleteThat's your subjective opinion. The comment says nothing about quality. A lack of reading comprehension: now that's actually sad.
DeleteThanks C, I wanted to collectively speculate the play post Musers, because in its current form, you're right. But when (and I'm not interested in trying to guess that), what then? Can the HL sustain the whole enchilada?
DeleteI don't see the HL going much longer than the Musers. I can see Bob going on but I've always gotten the impression that Corby will get out early enough to enjoy his retirement. i don't see the station surviving the post Muser era, whenever that happens, in a recognizable form.
DeleteYou got 32 months left
Deletehttps://talkers.com/2024/01/22/ktck-am-fm-dallas-fort-worth-host-corby-davidson-inks-extension/
Nice resource. Thank you.
DeleteTracks. Using that timeframe as a guide, I would guess we have roughly two years remaining of Dunham and Miller in AM Drive.
DeleteSort of related. Been listening to all 11 CdS Danny/Mike pods on the state of The Ticket and DFW radio. They have one more that's all Ticket (about their exits). After that, they move into The Freak era. I have a lot of thoughts, and they are mixed to say the least. Waiting until they complete the entire arc before I post up a long form series of comments. Should be sometime in May. I know, bated breath and all.
Because every ad agency in town still gets ratings with all stations listed. Neilsen isn’t dumb enough to try to tell advertisers, who also pay for their service, that the station that’s been on a dominant run the last few years suddenly has zero listeners. The cumulus stations may not be listed in the publically released info, but Neilden still knows exactly what ratings and share the Cumulus stations have. Cumulus can’t use Neilsen ratings to sell advertising, but that doesn’t stop ad agencies from using the same data to buy radio advertising.
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Ouch. Not so cute any libger, are we, anon. Giggle
Deletelibger, not libger?
ReplyDeleteAngie Everheart is perfect.
ReplyDeleteFinally went to the Collectors Firearms website. He has no qualms selling you Nazi and SS regalia.
ReplyDeleteOr items from Mexico, Canada, Columbia, the UK, Iraqi, Denmark, Italy, or Japan. Do you get upset at people selling Babe Ruth and Ty Cobb baseball cards too? Do yo uget upset about the Daughters of the American Revolution doing Wreaths Across America or the Daughters of the Republic of Texas, too?
DeleteSo your contention is the things you listed are the equivalent of Nazi and SS regalia? Wow.
DeleteNone of the things/concepts you listed instantiate unadulterated evil, whereas Nazi stuff does. Weird, disturbing take.
DeleteI think I would have told my web designer to put pictures of my American or British memorabilia, rather than WW 2 Germany up. I'm sure there are legitimate reasons for collecting those items that don't involve being a fan of the Nazi's but even as much of a militrary history fan as I am I would steer clear of Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan for my personal collection.
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DeleteTo answer Gopher’s question: no, I don’t get mad at people selling baseball cards. Because baseball cards aren’t SS regalia.
DeleteDJ now the voice of TW on The Ticket. He claims they built a plan for him and didn't include any unnecessary products. I bet a dollar TW put him in high commission annuities which 100 percent are horrible investments for low and middle income Ticket producers. Although they are promising 30 percent bonuses.
ReplyDeleteI bet a dollar he doesnt have a pot to piss in and its just an ad read
DeleteTV has always done right by me.
Delete30 percent bonus!
DeleteAt the end of their latest podcast, Danny and Sirois hinted at the fact that the original plan was indeed to add Dan and Jake to the Freak Lineup.
ReplyDeleteWater is wet.
DeleteRichie Twitt was correct all along. Will the duplicity and machinations of Jake and Dan ever come to light? No way. They played Cumulus, some coworkers, and their audience like a cheap violin. And almost got their desired outcome. Too bad they didn't land the eagle. Would've been an all around win for the market. Instead, we get a 57 year old detailing his bate seshes and the smartest guy in the room who gets everything wrong, always. Too bad for us.
DeleteJune 2027
ReplyDeleteHi, Seacow.
DeleteThat first epi I knew something was ip. In fact, this whole thing is all another Sirois PR run up gag.
DeleteThis is about a current Ticket program
DeleteEXTRA EXTRA READ ALL ABOUT! MUSERS TO RETIRE IN '27!
DeleteDeja vu all over again.
ReplyDeleteThat was directed at Anonymous 12:48 PM
DeleteWhen are The Stars going to spend some money and get some goal tending in here?
ReplyDeleteJr taking another week off. 2 weeks in March. Weed in April. After a month off in December. One foot out the door.
ReplyDeleteHe's taken off for the Fiesta in San Antonio with his family for 3 years now. We'll get some fun fill ins like Doocy and Monty. If that keeps Junior for a few more years, I'm fine with the trade off.
DeleteI'm fine with the Musers having time off. They are still far and away the best thing on the in the morning, IMO. When they are on they are great and when they aren't there I catch up on Podcast. Its all good for me.
DeleteI think you're wrong.
ReplyDeleteThat makes no sense whatsoever. Dan will never see this. Find a new hobby, pal.
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