Thursday, December 21, 2017

Jock Sniffing Has Its Price


"Papa" John Schnatter, insufferable commercial pal of numerous pizza-fond athletes, is out as CEO of Papa John's.

He recently criticized the NFL for not getting control of this anthem-kneeling thing, blaming it for a downturn in pizza sales.

There was talk at the time that his sometime ad-making chum Jerry Jones put him up to this public speculation, both as an anti-Goodell strategy and to bring the economic effect of public revulsion over this practice home to the players.

He was widely ridiculed for this. 

(But if an activity associated with pizza-eating, as home football viewing kinda is, declines because people are starting to loathe pro football and its players (and probably its Commissioner and its referees and its owners), would it surprise anyone if, to some extent, he were right?  Has anyone looked into this?)

He's staying on as Chairman. 

Will his athletic friends continue to hang out with him if his pizza-flogging days, no doubt accompanied by complimentary tastings, have come to an end?

Stay tuned.

Papa John Out

"You didn't really just say 'Come to papa,' did you, Mr. Schnatter?"
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45 comments:

  1. From a CNBC article:

    "However, Pizza Hut, the pizza division of Yum Brands, said Thursday that it is 'not seeing any impact' from NFL player protests on its business in the third or fourth quarters of this year.

    "In fact, sales at Pizza Hut are doing quite well. On Thursday the brand posted its fifth consecutive quarter of positive same-store sales growth. The brand saw growth of 1 percent, exceeding forecasts for a 0.7 percent decline in the third quarter.

    "'We're not seeing any impact from any of that on our business,' the company said during an earnings conference call Thursday.

    "Yum said that live sporting events, including baseball, college football and the NFL were important to its business. Pizza Hut is the official sponsor of the NCAA."

    So it appears that it isn't that the decline of interest in the NFL isn't hurting pizza sales so much as it is hurting companies that pal around with the NFL.

    Also, reports have it that Papa John's was missing earnings estimates before the kneeling brouhaha.

    In either case, Papa looks dumb.

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  2. Wonder if Ben and Skin will take note????

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  3. There's a marked difference between being the official pizza of the NFL and the NFL being important to business. The latter is not directly tied to the league, the former, is. Now, just as to why it is attendance and viewership has decreased....well, that's up for debate. The fact that it has, across the board (not just for the sad sack franchises, a la Cleveland) is real and has dented the bottom line. Has it genuinely impacted PJ's sales? Don't know. But I don't think it's totally unreasonable to think it might....leaving aside the utter bad touch that is Papa J himself.

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  4. I really enjoy listening to the Teebox on Saturday mornings, but golf -- I set the game ahead by decades when a mover lost my clubs in the early 1990s and I haven't swung a club in anger since.

    So:

    Can anyone explain Rick Arnett's joke at the end of the show today about the beautiful woman trying to break 80 and offering sex to whichever of her three male partners can give her the best advice that will help her make the 80-breaking putt?

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  5. Did you hear Monte and Mino giving out their Christmas gifts yesterday? One of those pull-back-the-curtain segments.

    Monte is gifting T.C. an on-off switch for his mic, since his seems to be stuck in the "on" position. Man.

    Do you ever get the feeling that the behind-the-scenes at The Ticket would make Cosa Nostra internal politics look like child's-play?

    Your favorites?

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  6. They'll claim it's all in good fun, everyone loves each other, yada yada yada. But I've heard far too many bombs lobbed TC's way over the past few years from the JV for there to be nothing "there." Fahy alone has made some CUTTING quips that cannot be seen as anything other than unfriendly.

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  7. Isn't TC the only JV guy that has no fill in show?

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  8. He had a pretty big role during Musers drydock there for a few days. I believe it was the Shake Joint duo as nominal hosts. He did the Gordon segments.

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  9. I hardly ever listen to Norm but was in the car at some point and had it on. Norm is going on about something and asked Trey his opinion.

    In perfect timing (in my mind I could see the mic being turned on" and Cray Trey comes out with "Exactly...I mean". It was literally a laugh-out-loud moment in the car for me.

    (Context for those that don't know. Those were Grub's first words ever spoken on the air when Norm asked him a question.)

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  10. East Texas P1:

    I heard the SAME thing!!! I’m glad you verified it because when he said it, I wondered if it was what I thought I heard. Genius! I don’t remember Norm even breaking stride.

    Also in one of the NaD openers, Norm is telling a story and says the name Pam to which the whole crew pounced. “Did u say Pan?” “Oh, it’s got a d on the end...Pand” and Norm keeps correcting them. Finally Donnie says I love each and every one of you. It was funny. Most ticket bits are lost on Norm. My favorite is post norm-a-thon when Mike is giving a heart whelming thanks and Norm interrupts and says Tech just hit one of the ugliest field goals.

    The best part is hearing these live. And then replayed

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  11. It’s Just Banter f/ TC and Jake is a fill in show

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  12. A fill in show that occurred once. Once.

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  13. Monte got nuthin'. Taking a call to hear how to disconnect a toilet to steal isn't great radio. Hello NPR.
    Nor is speculating how long an object has to be dead before it's officially a carcass. Punch out!
    These guys are not entertaining. TC is subtle and occasionally genius.
    Happy New Year!

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  14. Wow, two outlier opinions in one comment. Actually, now that I reread it, three. Well, you're entitled to them.

    Consider Jake and Monte. Two very different personalities and broadcast styles. Jake brainy and flashy, Monte down-to-earth and warm. But both have something that makes them appealing on the air. They're likable. I don't think I have anything more profound than that to offer as to why I look forward to hearing them on the air.

    They're certainly not the only ones, but I mention them because their rise over the past two years has been notable.

    A JV may have some smarts and sportsy knowledge, but grate on the air for reasons that are just as hard to put one's finger on.

    And, as 950 demonstrates, tastes vary.

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  15. Is there any worse major-market online newspaper than the Dallas Morning News? Maybe I'm the only one that finds the site nearly impossible to use. And I mean "literally" impossible. It's unattractively laid out, acres of wasted space and minimal information. It's hard to find stuff. If you can find an article you want and manage to open it up for more than 30 seconds without some popup opening and not closing, eliminating the ability to read the article, the image leaps up and down so you end up clicking on stuff you have no interest in -- obviously trying to direct one's attention to the ads, but mainly making one furious at the Dallas Morning News.

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  16. And you know who oversees it????? Bob Bob Wilonsky. You're correct, it is TERRRRRRibllllleeee.

    Actually, embarrassing is more a pt.

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  17. Ads and photos keep opening and closing, shoving text all over the screen while one is trying to read. Infuriating.

    I did manage to cobble together enough screensful to read Bob Sturm's article. Its analysis was excellent, as usual, but the man writes like he talks -- taking forEVer to get to the point. The title of the article is "Nothing Changes Because Nothing Changes," which is an interesting hook. He eventually gets around to it.

    But in the meantime . . . . I originally cut and pasted the first third of the article, but thought it would be better to send you there to read it for yourself. Read the first dozen or so paragraphs of this:

    https://sportsday.dallasnews.com/dallas-cowboys/cowboys/2017/12/25/morning-after-nothing-changes-nothing-changes

    There are some arresting turns of phrase there. But the first third of this piece says absolutely nothing of substance to the point promised in the title, or really, any point about the Seahawks game or the Cowboys' season.

    Freed from the constraints of newsprint, writers can go on and on. But surely even in this digital era there's a place for editors. I don't really blame Bob for his leisurely prefaces, it's one of the reasons we love the guy. But a newspaper should show some attention to the craft of journalistic writing, and the gatekeepers for that are the editors.

    Yeah, I know, I go on and on myself sometimes. But this is not a major metropolitan newspaper, and I'm not paid to write it good.

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  18. P-man -

    Maybe it is just you. Or rather, your machine.

    I read the DMN almost everyday, either from my little laptop I always carry with me, my big laptop that always stays in the docking station at work or my I-pad and I never get pop-ups. Sometimes I just read the articles at dallasnews.com and sometimes I log into the paid subscriber link to read today's edition. Either way, I don't get pop-ups, the screen doesn't jump around or any of the other issues you describe. I get a nice, placid screen. On my I-pad I even actually get to tap on the article and it "jumps out" in its entirety so I don't have to go to another page. Really efficient.

    I will agree the search function leaves something to be desired. I have tried looking up some Gordon Keith and Dave Lieber articles and have had issues.

    I mostly use Firefox but have not had any issues with Chrome or on my I-pad, whatever system that runs.

    Another good, insightful article by the Sturminator, BTW.

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  19. Yes, Bob's point is a good one and one I have made to my Cowboys-loving friends for awhile.

    Glad your DMN experience has been smoother. I'm usually on large desktop modules. And you're right about the searching.

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  20. I thought Norm got off to a really rough start this morning, but he seemed to perk up after a bit.

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  21. What do you mean by a rough start?

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  22. Noticeably slurring a number of words, saying "five hundred thousand" in contributions when he meant "five thousand." But he warmed up after a half-hour or so.

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  23. I don't believe Big Bob Wilonsky still goes by the title of digital editor. I think he's just a contributing writer.

    Corby and Danny made the observation recently that slurring words is a sign of mental incompetence. Poor Norm.

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  24. Me sainted mother wanted a subscription to the DMN hard copy so I got it for her, which means I get DMN communiques from time to time. Big Bob sent one the other day, and his title was listed as "City Columnist."

    Norm's voice also sounded pretty rough, as it does now from time to time. Again, he hit his stride as the morning went on. Haven't been tuned in the last couple of hours.

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  25. Lee Trevino is a local, state and national treasure. I am not a big golf person but I love it anytime he's on the little Ticket.

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  26. Trevino is fan fucking tastic! I think Norm did mean 500k. Am I wrong?

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  27. The "five hundred thousand" remark was right at the outset of the broadcast. No way they collected a half million at that point, even with advance raffle sales. Donovan and Sirois went wild with delight. The next time he spoke, he said "five thousand," which made more sense. It was just a misspeak, no big deal, but he was all over the road for awhile until he hit his stride.

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  28. I was just at the norm a thin and norm said that they are going to be over 500k

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  29. Plainsman,
    But even before his thoughts on kneeling, Papa John was having one very bad 2017.
    In April, he resigned from the University of Louisville Athletic Department's Board of Directors (dba U of L Athletic Association) due to issues to it's management. Then all the FBI/Rick Pitino stuff went down plus the athletic director was also involved in the graft, so his buddies were fired. While he remains as a trustee at the school, he's directly tied to the rise of University of Louisville athletics from commuter school to ACC membership, starting with him with sponsorship to their “on-campus” stadium in 1998.

    http://www.espn.com/espn/otl/story/_/id/21710106/louisville-athletic-director-tom-jurich-leveraged-big-deals-build-university-sports-powerhouse-only-watch-burn-amid-charges-excess

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  30. Thanks, Iguana, I thought I heard it right. Norm said that since last year's a-thon, there have been numerous, sizeable, gifts.

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  31. What ended up being the final tally?

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  32. I know its for a noble cause but the Norm-a-thon is the biggest punch out of the year for me. I actually listened to some Fan JV Cowboy talk instead. Luckily its only one day a year and obviously a nice thing Norm is doing but count me out as someone who listens to that 18 hour beating.

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  33. Love Donnie but sometimes his sports arguments sound like generic dude at bar. A lot of conviction but kinda talking in circles and not always a sharply defined point.

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  34. BoobsareformotorboatingDecember 31, 2017 at 9:27 PM

    What are your Ticket new year's resolutions, hopes, predictions?

    I'm resolved to listen more to the weekend shows.

    I hope we'll have less political talk (regardless of the bent).

    I predict this is the year a big decision is made vis-a-vis a Varsity host's future. And no, I'm not talking about a retirement.

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  35. Bring back The 2 Minute Drill. Stop with the right side of history Hardline. Norm rides off into the sunset with Mary. A key JV member takes a job in another market after thinking he was gonna get the vacancy left after Norm's adios muchachos.

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  36. Ready for tomorrow. Even though this drydock wasn't as painful as they've been in the past, I'm totally ready for the regular lineup.

    My prediction is that nothing whatsoever changes.

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  37. I am just asking....... Hosts please keep the recap of what happened while you were on vacation to a very very very short segment. We don't care about your thoughts on what happened two weeks ago.

    It is a new year, don't start us off with a beating in 2018. The Hardline is the worst at this as it requires no show prep.

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  38. Good riddance Papa John. This was clearly something orchestrated between PJ and Jerrah. So happy it backfired.

    Remember Jerrah won't stand for silent protest against social injustice but if you beat up a woman or kill a teammate drunk driving you've done NOTHING wrong in his estimation.

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  39. Confessors, thanks for keeping the fires lit. Hope everyone had a safe and happy Christmas and New Year. I was tied up the entire holiday, will try to get a new redhead up soon at the very least.

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  40. I'm planning out my 2018 calendar. When will I need to block off time to hold onto my butt?

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  41. A little late getting started on that calendar, eh, chief?

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  42. The only question I have about the Big Announcement tomorrow is whether or not the Ticketstock promo song is going to whip me senseless the first week or not.

    Norm will retire when they pry him off the microphone and wheel him out on a gurney under a sheet. What the hell else is he going to do? Jabber at his neighbor about sports for free? Mary can only take so much. He has the sweetest gig in town. Do exactly what he would ordinarily do on any given day and get paid for it.

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  43. I for one am hoping for a Bodak Yellow parody

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  44. I still haven't heard the promo song. We get jerry rice. woo. hold me back.
    I expect they will give him a fine interview. Probably a good guy.
    But Bob leaving the DMN might have more of an impact on the sports landscape.
    That's the sort of stuff that deserves an extra segment.

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