A home for those who love almost everything about The Ticket (1310 AM, 96.7 FM, Dallas-Fort Worth), and who would like to discuss -- respectfully and fondly -- their thoughts on how (and whether) to eliminate the "almost."
Confessors, I am wondering whether we would be as hard on The Freak if it weren't for its catastrophic launch -- self-congratulatory, fluid host assignments, mispromoted as "renegade" radio, inconsistent accounts of its birthing, Rhyner ass-kissing, "we say what we want" nose-thumbing to what listeners actually want to hear. Completely bungled.
The whole enterprise, to which I believe most Confessors were looking forward, came across in its first few weeks as -- how can I say it -- unlikable. Sort of ewww.
Which is a shame, because most of the performers are, in fact, likable and not terrible broadcasters when they have something to broadcast. Would we be giving the station more of a break if their first few weeks weren't so gawdawful tone-deaf? If the station sounded then like it sounds now? Were we put off by the chest-thumping and let that first impression color our opinion of how it sounded after they got all that swill out of the way?
Pman- when you say how it sounds now, what do you mean? How do you think it’s different from October to now? To me it’s still the same weird combo of 4 subjects, food discussions, animal discussions, internet news, or circle jerky discussions about themselves. There’s absolutely no “there” there for much of the show. They’ve bought into one of the fatal flaws of marketing. They’re marketing themselves, and not marketing TO THE LISTENERS. The listeners don’t really care that you can say what you want, the listeners want (fill in blank). Maybe it’s classic rock, maybe it’s sports, maybe it’s the best mix of the 90s and now. But all of those stations understand listeners want/need an easy understanding of the station. To use a marketing example, coke is coke, Pepsi is the taste of a new generation, 7-up is the Uncola. Ticket is sports and what it implies, the fan is the home of the cowboys. And what is the freak communicating? “We have bubbles and make you burp”. I’ve listened for months and Have yet to be told via promos WHY I should listen. What do I get at 97-1 that I can’t get elsewhere? They’re a station embodiment of the ticket or fan going off topic. But clearly no one wants off topic radio all the damn time. C
I can only speak for myself but the enjoyment I've had at the failure of the freak is solely based on the way Sirois left the Ticket...his ridiculousness on Gordo's twitch...and precisely what you described during the launch of the freak.
The assumption here is that their M.O. has changed. As you admit you haven't listened, let me both pre say and say that I have and it hasn't changed a bit. Well, they have doubled down on being "the little guy"(an iHeart station!) who's been unfairly maligned by rock enthusiasts and zealous listeners of another station. And do so all the while telling you they thank you for choosing them for your radio consumption. Tons of ick factor.
I know no one probably knows the answer, but I tuned in a couple of times this week to The Speakeasy and have not heard Julie. Is she the first casualty?
Probs on vacay, out with the sick, or sick squid. I think it'd be known if she was axed. Plus, you'd think if anyone were first to get 86'd it would be KT. She'd be 2nd for sure. Followed by Cavanaugh, Krystina, Sirois, Danny, B&S, and finally, I'm Back Bitches (heretofore known as IBB).
Plainsman, you hit around but not on the biggest item that really turned me off on the Freak, which is it that it was evident from jump street that this is all one big vanity spite project for Mike. The only reason the Freak exists is because a boomer got mad that his boss(es) told him to put more effort into the show that he co-founded, so he quits and starts plots to start his own station (again), but the pandy forced him to wait 2 years. You’re damn right it’s unlikeable and I’m enjoying this blowing up in Mike’s face.
I agree with this general thought. Mike’s whole “I don’t owe listeners anything” and showing his real persona left me with a real bad taste in my mouth for him and anyone else associated. He owed the listeners everything in fact.
Not an insider, not connected with anyone in the game. I am a fairly decent observer of human nature and the world around in general. Here's why I think The Freak is probably not long for it and that The Freakers know this and have known it since right before they went into their dry dock. Ben and Skin. Those two have more experience than pehaps anyone in this market when it comes to reading the tea leaves and knowing what's coming down the pike and when it's likely to occur. After all, they've been let go at nearly every FM talker in the market. So what's my point? My point is that it was right before dry dock that The Ben and Skin show became a daily long form infomercial for their brewery. It remains that to this day. I work from home and the work that I do allows for me to listen to as much radio as I please. While I am an early adopter P1, I've also always tuned into other area talkers. Of course, when The Freak was announced and went live I was very interested (as were we all) and began to tune in. I still take a daily sample a segment from each show. Perhpas I'm wrong, but the tenor of The Ben and Skin show speaks volumes to me. All three shows in general have come to take on what I can best describe as a "what's there to lose" attitude. As a life long radio consumer, I have to say that I've never seen anything like this. This is not a compliment.
Am wondering if this Ticketstock was sparsely or at least not as well attended as they usually are? There's very few comments and no clips or pics of it on the reddit page. I can't recall a Ticketstock where so little discussion and zero pics or vids were posted on reddit.
interesting to hear Corby went public with that - someday, the full story of what Corby had to shoulder in the post Grego years will be told and any who aren't a fan of the Snake will likely have to re-think that opinion.
.@dfwticket why is @GeorgeDunham singing about @971TheFreak ? You worried? You scared? They don’t mention you. I left long ago. You’re not entertaining anymore. You’re obsolete. Ask @theoldgreywolf @badkaratemovie @JulieAnnDobbs @MikeSirois you lose soon. Beginning of the end.
Meh. Saw the video, during sweet hardline George sang something like 3-7 every week, better than listening to the freak. Crowd goes nuts for that line. Would be easier to take comments like the tweet above seriously if they could point to a station that has done the same. Show me the station that had ratings, flipped formats, drove the ratings into the toilet and rebounded to win over a Marconi winning, dominant in the demo station. And I sample the Freak a lot, they mention the ticket constantly. Either by name, or as the station we used to work for. And if they’re not going after the ticket, why did they hire almost the entire staff of people who worked for the ticket? And why talk so much sports. It’s like they think the problem with the ticket was not enough off topic segments. Instead of Gordon getting a segment an hour for fun and nonsense, they want to flip that script. Ratings come out tomorrow. Preview says it’s more of the same. Ticket going well, freak most likely still in the 20s. We will see if another bad book for the Freak is really the beginning of the end for the Ticket. C
I think one of the key differences between the Freak's launch and the Ticket's is a site like this and other social media. Would there have been post on social media about George and Junior stabbing Brad Sham in the back, or the Hammer with Galloway? Would there have been post about Spare Wars or fake Norm were unfair, callous and cheap shots at competitors? Would Gordo have even survived the early days of the Ticket with social media? It is such a different world now, as many have pointed out.
Don't get me wrong the Freak rollout has been mind boggling to me. I have no idea what they are doing or what the plan was. I still find some of them occasionally enjoyable and I wish that they were still on the Ticket and I'd be more than happy to listen to them on their next stop with hopefully a better plan.
Bottom line is that those behind the formation of The Freak (iHeart, B&S, Sirois, Rhyner, Julie) vastly, VASTLY overestimated their appeal to the P1 and their ability to draw listeners away from KTCK. That’s the only explanation. I think they all have to be shitting their pants at just how low their ratings have been/continue to be
Lol the Freak getting sensitive now over one line in a parody song meant to be for fun at a live event? It's not like they have ever mentioned them directly on air (as they have no need to). Rhyner is a sucker, I looked at the timeline of the person he retweeted...yeah, seems on brand.
They are really pinning their hopes on the few disgruntled spares who think they're doing something special like starting a revolution by switching their listening from the Ticket. Fail!
Are you fing kidding me. I have never gone off on this site, but you sire, are clueless.
Corbitt has walked into, and been handed everything. 25 years ago, I thought he was great, then I grew up.
HE, got a job as a spare comedian trying to imitate Gordo, his hero. BTW, still does. He was handed the HL gig, out of desperation, as we went through countless plus ones to plug the hole.
I am not a huge Jake fan, he knows sports, but not a fan..... BUT, Jake worked his ASS off for his spot on air. Corby fell into an opening they had no good solution for. Hence, mediocrity we have hear since.
The interesting question for me is - where is the tipping point. What is the date where a iheart executive decides it costs less to pay off contracts then it does to keep them on the air. A little birdie told me that not everyone is under contract. Another little birdie said sales are down significantly from the Eagle days, to the tune of millions of dollars. Be interesting to see the math. How much is Rhyner owed? When do dump out of their failed experiment? Guess we will know more tomorrow C
Well, Scott, I think your 'member berries are a bit off kilter.
First off, 755 (and I'm not that commenter, btw) was commenting on what Corby said when asked about Rhyner, TF, and the Ticket ex-pats during the HL ama at Ticketstock. They were going off Corby's comments, assuming if true, then that eventually the full story will emerge and that it'll probably shed some light on what Corby (and Danny, though they didn't mention his name) had to put up with during the post-Greggo years. So, on that alone I think your comment is rather reactionary.
Secondly, did you listen to THL post Greggo? Better, did you listen to THL from around '06 to Dry Dock '19? Because if you did and you can say with a straight face that Rhyner did not mail it in, was mostly disinterested, was far too often blatantly not paying attention to what Corby and Danny were saying, had no interest in discussing sports (even the Rangers) much less follow games/sporting news of the day.... then you're either willfully blind or a liar. Rhyner HIMSELF has admitted that he was often checked out.
Thirdly, I don't think there's anyone out there who knows Corby isn't a lucky sob more than Corby when it comes to his career path. Just like this year's Philadelphia Eagles: you play the schedule that's set before you; if it's a cakewalk, then take advantage of it and get those wins and get to The Promised Land. That's what Corby did. As for as being a Gordo wannabe goes... did you actually listen to The Rant? I did. Every f'n weekend. A lot. And I mean A LOT of the classic Rant segments, the segments that went way off the farm and would leave you gasping for air were Corby and Davey led. Not Gordo. Gordo would make fantastically funny comments and stir the pot, but make no mistake about it, Corby and Davey were no Gordo Jrs. I know what I'm talking about here, do you?
Lastly, Corby was ASKED by Greggo to be on THL. At first, Rhyner was unsure about it but quickly accepted him into the fold. And if you think for one second if Rhyner didn't want him to be his cohost after GW's firing, you're again, willfully blind or a liar. Rhyner made that decision.
I'm no Corby apologist. In fact, I've always found him to be mostly an unbearable Frat Rat Douche Canoe. But the truth is the truth and needs to be said.
More on Rhyner's latest display of pathetic pathos in a bit....
All great points, 3:19. And to tack on, even during the latter Greggo days, it was Corby and Danny steering the ship and keeping the HL afloat because Ma and Pa Hardline Proper were not on speaking terms and did zero show prep. All told, Corby has been leading the HL during Greggo, Post-Greggo, and Post-Grey Wolf (pre-Bob). You may not jive with his broadcast style, but to call him unskilled, unprepared or uncaring isn’t fair or close to accurate.
To add to my above comment and address Pman’s original post, the reason we’re hard on The Freak isn’t because of their questionable entrance into the market. We all wanted to them to succeed and to have another great option. The reason we’re hard on them is because they are just absolutely unlistenable while at the same time telling us how great and revolutionary it all is. They say what they want. They love what they are saying. The listeners are telling them it’s beyond awful, but they double down and keep telling us how fantastic it all is. In other words, they are treating their listeners like imbecilic children that need to be told what we should want and how lucky we all are to hear their genius.
^^^^^^Which, ironically, is exactly what Rocco Pendola said to management upon his hire ("I'll fart on air and they'll love it and call me a genius"), and what made Rhyner openly, on air, spew venom towards him. When folks show open and sustainef disdain for someone, it's often a good indicator that that person sees themself in the other. Rhyner has proven this thesis over and again.
One has to wonder how the D/FW sports landscape would look if today's social media had been around in the mid-80s. When Norm left WBAP to start the morning drive show at KLIF, how would the market react? The sports director at WBAP, Dan Potter and Steve lamb said it would fail as did Galloway. I don't think Sham was on board either. Ten years later, the media wasn't too fired up about the Ticket either. As the product improved so did its ratings and local acceptance. There was very little if any social media to praise or shout it down then. Today is a different story. Was the Freak totally driven by social media? Did the Mikes think that a small vocal minority on social media would/could support a new talk station based on an anti-Ticket platform? Will there be a rebound or has it about run its course?
They can’t keep underperforming the Eagle’s prior books, let alone not even sniffing the Fan’s jock in ratings. A couple more months of 1 shares and it’s toast
Has a show on the Freak prank called another show? Do they have consistently funny characters or bits? Are they young, desperate guys trying to make their way in radio? These are the things that built the Ticket. If the Freak REALLY wanted to be different, take the young talent from the Ticket and let them lose. Has beens and never was/were personalities are proving to be poor investments. Rick Perry said it best…Adios mofo!!!!!
George appears to be very hurt by the presence of the Freak. I did a quick looksie and he has unfollowed everyone that left the Ticket for the Freak. Even Rhyner. It looks like Bob has unfollowed both Mikes.
So someone can see who you've unfollowed on Twitter? Huh.
@832am Do you think that perhaps it's not the existence of The Freak that bothers George, but rather, it's his former (supposed) friends and coworkers --the ones who left and turned around and spewed venom at their former coworkers/friends-- that he takes issue with? Can someone of your skill set/capabilities even grasp what's being said here? I'm thinking not.
Anyone have the 411 on the preview of the book? Looking at you, C.
ReplyDeleteConfessors, I am wondering whether we would be as hard on The Freak if it weren't for its catastrophic launch -- self-congratulatory, fluid host assignments, mispromoted as "renegade" radio, inconsistent accounts of its birthing, Rhyner ass-kissing, "we say what we want" nose-thumbing to what listeners actually want to hear. Completely bungled.
ReplyDeleteThe whole enterprise, to which I believe most Confessors were looking forward, came across in its first few weeks as -- how can I say it -- unlikable. Sort of ewww.
Which is a shame, because most of the performers are, in fact, likable and not terrible broadcasters when they have something to broadcast. Would we be giving the station more of a break if their first few weeks weren't so gawdawful tone-deaf? If the station sounded then like it sounds now? Were we put off by the chest-thumping and let that first impression color our opinion of how it sounded after they got all that swill out of the way?
Dunno. I haven't tuned in for well over a month.
Pman- when you say how it sounds now, what do you mean? How do you think it’s different from October to now? To me it’s still the same weird combo of 4 subjects, food discussions, animal discussions, internet news, or circle jerky discussions about themselves. There’s absolutely no “there” there for much of the show. They’ve bought into one of the fatal flaws of marketing. They’re marketing themselves, and not marketing TO THE LISTENERS. The listeners don’t really care that you can say what you want, the listeners want (fill in blank). Maybe it’s classic rock, maybe it’s sports, maybe it’s the best mix of the 90s and now. But all of those stations understand listeners want/need an easy understanding of the station. To use a marketing example, coke is coke, Pepsi is the taste of a new generation, 7-up is the Uncola. Ticket is sports and what it implies, the fan is the home of the cowboys. And what is the freak communicating? “We have bubbles and make you burp”. I’ve listened for months and Have yet to be told via promos WHY I should listen. What do I get at 97-1 that I can’t get elsewhere? They’re a station embodiment of the ticket or fan going off topic. But clearly no one wants off topic radio all the damn time.
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Plainsman, I think you are right about most of that. I'd add the smugness of the show with the initials "BS" to the list of what turned me off.
ReplyDeleteI can only speak for myself but the enjoyment I've had at the failure of the freak is solely based on the way Sirois left the Ticket...his ridiculousness on Gordo's twitch...and precisely what you described during the launch of the freak.
ReplyDeleteThe assumption here is that their M.O. has changed. As you admit you haven't listened, let me both pre say and say that I have and it hasn't changed a bit. Well, they have doubled down on being "the little guy"(an iHeart station!) who's been unfairly maligned by rock enthusiasts and zealous listeners of another station. And do so all the while telling you they thank you for choosing them for your radio consumption. Tons of ick factor.
ReplyDeleteI know no one probably knows the answer, but I tuned in a couple of times this week to The Speakeasy and have not heard Julie. Is she the first casualty?
ReplyDeleteJulie had a minor surgery and is out for a few days...thats all. Also, the Downbeat is hysterical...and Julie is gold as always too
DeleteProbs on vacay, out with the sick, or sick squid. I think it'd be known if she was axed. Plus, you'd think if anyone were first to get 86'd it would be KT. She'd be 2nd for sure. Followed by Cavanaugh, Krystina, Sirois, Danny, B&S, and finally, I'm Back Bitches (heretofore known as IBB).
ReplyDeletePlainsman, you hit around but not on the biggest item that really turned me off on the Freak, which is it that it was evident from jump street that this is all one big vanity spite project for Mike. The only reason the Freak exists is because a boomer got mad that his boss(es) told him to put more effort into the show that he co-founded, so he quits and starts plots to start his own station (again), but the pandy forced him to wait 2 years. You’re damn right it’s unlikeable and I’m enjoying this blowing up in Mike’s face.
ReplyDeleteI agree with this general thought. Mike’s whole “I don’t owe listeners anything” and showing his real persona left me with a real bad taste in my mouth for him and anyone else associated. He owed the listeners everything in fact.
DeleteThanks for clearing that up for us, KT (9:16 PM).
ReplyDeleteThe problem with mikes don’t owe us anything mindset is, while it’s cool to have that mindset, we are the only reason he’s anything lol.
ReplyDeleteAnyone at or went to Ticketstock? If so, how well attended is/was it?
ReplyDeleteNot an insider, not connected with anyone in the game. I am a fairly decent observer of human nature and the world around in general. Here's why I think The Freak is probably not long for it and that The Freakers know this and have known it since right before they went into their dry dock. Ben and Skin. Those two have more experience than pehaps anyone in this market when it comes to reading the tea leaves and knowing what's coming down the pike and when it's likely to occur. After all, they've been let go at nearly every FM talker in the market. So what's my point? My point is that it was right before dry dock that The Ben and Skin show became a daily long form infomercial for their brewery. It remains that to this day. I work from home and the work that I do allows for me to listen to as much radio as I please. While I am an early adopter P1, I've also always tuned into other area talkers. Of course, when The Freak was announced and went live I was very interested (as were we all) and began to tune in. I still take a daily sample a segment from each show. Perhpas I'm wrong, but the tenor of The Ben and Skin show speaks volumes to me. All three shows in general have come to take on what I can best describe as a "what's there to lose" attitude. As a life long radio consumer, I have to say that I've never seen anything like this. This is not a compliment.
ReplyDeleteWould've loved to have been at THL AMA sesh. Wonder what was said about TF, Rhyner, Danny, Sirois, and Julie?
ReplyDeleteReddit has a little bit on this. Corbles said Mike did zero prep in his final years on the show
DeleteAm wondering if this Ticketstock was sparsely or at least not as well attended as they usually are? There's very few comments and no clips or pics of it on the reddit page. I can't recall a Ticketstock where so little discussion and zero pics or vids were posted on reddit.
ReplyDeleteThe posted pics show a packed house
ReplyDeleteWhere are you seeing those, Surly? Good to hear. I wonder if Gordo virtually attended some roundtables via Zoom or Skype? Anyone catch the AMAs?
ReplyDeleteinteresting to hear Corby went public with that - someday, the full story of what Corby had to shoulder in the post Grego years will be told and any who aren't a fan of the Snake will likely have to re-think that opinion.
ReplyDeleteAnd there will be at least two former Ticketeers who from that point forward will be thought of universally in different (rather negative) terms.
ReplyDeleteTwitter dot com
ReplyDeleteGordon appeared via CleanFeed Friday during Hardline but did not appear at all on Saturday
ReplyDeleteMike Rhyner retweeted this:
ReplyDelete.@dfwticket why is @GeorgeDunham singing about @971TheFreak ? You worried? You scared? They don’t mention you. I left long ago. You’re not entertaining anymore. You’re obsolete. Ask @theoldgreywolf @badkaratemovie @JulieAnnDobbs @MikeSirois you lose soon. Beginning of the end.
Meh. Saw the video, during sweet hardline George sang something like 3-7 every week, better than listening to the freak. Crowd goes nuts for that line. Would be easier to take comments like the tweet above seriously if they could point to a station that has done the same. Show me the station that had ratings, flipped formats, drove the ratings into the toilet and rebounded to win over a Marconi winning, dominant in the demo station. And I sample the Freak a lot, they mention the ticket constantly. Either by name, or as the station we used to work for. And if they’re not going after the ticket, why did they hire almost the entire staff of people who worked for the ticket? And why talk so much sports. It’s like they think the problem with the ticket was not enough off topic segments. Instead of Gordon getting a segment an hour for fun and nonsense, they want to flip that script. Ratings come out tomorrow. Preview says it’s more of the same. Ticket going well, freak most likely still in the 20s. We will see if another bad book for the Freak is really the beginning of the end for the Ticket.
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When they directly challenged the ticket on WED it was obvious they’re going after the ticket
ReplyDeleteI think one of the key differences between the Freak's launch and the Ticket's is a site like this and other social media. Would there have been post on social media about George and Junior stabbing Brad Sham in the back, or the Hammer with Galloway? Would there have been post about Spare Wars or fake Norm were unfair, callous and cheap shots at competitors? Would Gordo have even survived the early days of the Ticket with social media? It is such a different world now, as many have pointed out.
ReplyDeleteDon't get me wrong the Freak rollout has been mind boggling to me. I have no idea what they are doing or what the plan was. I still find some of them occasionally enjoyable and I wish that they were still on the Ticket and I'd be more than happy to listen to them on their next stop with hopefully a better plan.
Bottom line is that those behind the formation of The Freak (iHeart, B&S, Sirois, Rhyner, Julie) vastly, VASTLY overestimated their appeal to the P1 and their ability to draw listeners away from KTCK. That’s the only explanation. I think they all have to be shitting their pants at just how low their ratings have been/continue to be
ReplyDeleteLol the Freak getting sensitive now over one line in a parody song meant to be for fun at a live event? It's not like they have ever mentioned them directly on air (as they have no need to). Rhyner is a sucker, I looked at the timeline of the person he retweeted...yeah, seems on brand.
ReplyDeleteThey are really pinning their hopes on the few disgruntled spares who think they're doing something special like starting a revolution by switching their listening from the Ticket. Fail!
OK, 7:55. I wish we could use names.
ReplyDelete"The full story of what Corby had to endure"
Are you fing kidding me. I have never gone off on this site, but you sire, are clueless.
Corbitt has walked into, and been handed everything. 25 years ago, I thought he was great, then I grew up.
HE, got a job as a spare comedian trying to imitate Gordo, his hero. BTW, still does. He was handed the HL gig, out of desperation, as we went through countless plus ones to plug the hole.
I am not a huge Jake fan, he knows sports, but not a fan..... BUT, Jake worked his ASS off for his spot on air. Corby fell into an opening they had no good solution for. Hence, mediocrity we have hear since.
neat, Scott
Deletewe all got opinions
The interesting question for me is - where is the tipping point. What is the date where a iheart executive decides it costs less to pay off contracts then it does to keep them on the air. A little birdie told me that not everyone is under contract. Another little birdie said sales are down significantly from the Eagle days, to the tune of millions of dollars. Be interesting to see the math. How much is Rhyner owed? When do dump out of their failed experiment? Guess we will know more tomorrow
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Well, Scott, I think your 'member berries are a bit off kilter.
ReplyDeleteFirst off, 755 (and I'm not that commenter, btw) was commenting on what Corby said when asked about Rhyner, TF, and the Ticket ex-pats during the HL ama at Ticketstock. They were going off Corby's comments, assuming if true, then that eventually the full story will emerge and that it'll probably shed some light on what Corby (and Danny, though they didn't mention his name) had to put up with during the post-Greggo years. So, on that alone I think your comment is rather reactionary.
Secondly, did you listen to THL post Greggo? Better, did you listen to THL from around '06 to Dry Dock '19? Because if you did and you can say with a straight face that Rhyner did not mail it in, was mostly disinterested, was far too often blatantly not paying attention to what Corby and Danny were saying, had no interest in discussing sports (even the Rangers) much less follow games/sporting news of the day.... then you're either willfully blind or a liar. Rhyner HIMSELF has admitted that he was often checked out.
Thirdly, I don't think there's anyone out there who knows Corby isn't a lucky sob more than Corby when it comes to his career path. Just like this year's Philadelphia Eagles: you play the schedule that's set before you; if it's a cakewalk, then take advantage of it and get those wins and get to The Promised Land. That's what Corby did. As for as being a Gordo wannabe goes... did you actually listen to The Rant? I did. Every f'n weekend. A lot. And I mean A LOT of the classic Rant segments, the segments that went way off the farm and would leave you gasping for air were Corby and Davey led. Not Gordo. Gordo would make fantastically funny comments and stir the pot, but make no mistake about it, Corby and Davey were no Gordo Jrs. I know what I'm talking about here, do you?
Lastly, Corby was ASKED by Greggo to be on THL. At first, Rhyner was unsure about it but quickly accepted him into the fold. And if you think for one second if Rhyner didn't want him to be his cohost after GW's firing, you're again, willfully blind or a liar. Rhyner made that decision.
I'm no Corby apologist. In fact, I've always found him to be mostly an unbearable Frat Rat Douche Canoe. But the truth is the truth and needs to be said.
More on Rhyner's latest display of pathetic pathos in a bit....
All great points, 3:19. And to tack on, even during the latter Greggo days, it was Corby and Danny steering the ship and keeping the HL afloat because Ma and Pa Hardline Proper were not on speaking terms and did zero show prep. All told, Corby has been leading the HL during Greggo, Post-Greggo, and Post-Grey Wolf (pre-Bob). You may not jive with his broadcast style, but to call him unskilled, unprepared or uncaring isn’t fair or close to accurate.
ReplyDeleteTo add to my above comment and address Pman’s original post, the reason we’re hard on The Freak isn’t because of their questionable entrance into the market. We all wanted to them to succeed and to have another great option. The reason we’re hard on them is because they are just absolutely unlistenable while at the same time telling us how great and revolutionary it all is. They say what they want. They love what they are saying. The listeners are telling them it’s beyond awful, but they double down and keep telling us how fantastic it all is. In other words, they are treating their listeners like imbecilic children that need to be told what we should want and how lucky we all are to hear their genius.
ReplyDelete^^^^^^Which, ironically, is exactly what Rocco Pendola said to management upon his hire ("I'll fart on air and they'll love it and call me a genius"), and what made Rhyner openly, on air, spew venom towards him. When folks show open and sustainef disdain for someone, it's often a good indicator that that person sees themself in the other. Rhyner has proven this thesis over and again.
ReplyDeleteOne has to wonder how the D/FW sports landscape would look if today's social media had been around in the mid-80s. When Norm left WBAP to start the morning drive show at KLIF, how would the market react? The sports director at WBAP, Dan Potter and Steve lamb said it would fail as did Galloway. I don't think Sham was on board either.
ReplyDeleteTen years later, the media wasn't too fired up about the Ticket either. As the product improved so did its ratings and local acceptance. There was very little if any social media to praise or shout it down then.
Today is a different story. Was the Freak totally driven by social media? Did the Mikes think that a small vocal minority on social media would/could support a new talk station based on an anti-Ticket platform? Will there be a rebound or has it about run its course?
They can’t keep underperforming the Eagle’s prior books, let alone not even sniffing the Fan’s jock in ratings. A couple more months of 1 shares and it’s toast
DeleteHas a show on the Freak prank called another show? Do they have consistently funny characters or bits? Are they young, desperate guys trying to make their way in radio? These are the things that built the Ticket. If the Freak REALLY wanted to be different, take the young talent from the Ticket and let them lose. Has beens and never was/were personalities are proving to be poor investments. Rick Perry said it best…Adios mofo!!!!!
ReplyDeleteGeorge appears to be very hurt by the presence of the Freak. I did a quick looksie and he has unfollowed everyone that left the Ticket for the Freak. Even Rhyner. It looks like Bob has unfollowed both Mikes.
ReplyDeleteI can’t find Grubes on Twitter. Did he delete it?
ReplyDeletetweetgrubes is there as always
ReplyDeleteSo someone can see who you've unfollowed on Twitter? Huh.
ReplyDelete@832am Do you think that perhaps it's not the existence of The Freak that bothers George, but rather, it's his former (supposed) friends and coworkers --the ones who left and turned around and spewed venom at their former coworkers/friends-- that he takes issue with? Can someone of your skill set/capabilities even grasp what's being said here? I'm thinking not.