A home for those who love almost everything about The Ticket (1310 AM, 96.7 FM, Dallas-Fort Worth), and who would like to discuss -- respectfully and fondly -- their thoughts on how (and whether) to eliminate the "almost."
Been away a while, sorry. Former employer reached out for help with a nasty problem, MTC had to move aside even further than usual.
I've gotten a kick out of the recent The Good Contractors List ad. The Earnest Guy whose name I've forgotten – here it is, founder John Stewart Hill -- has now spent an entire ad warning customers who are considering making a claim that TGCL might find their complaint unjustified and TGCL is off the hook.
First thing I wonder is: Why would a customer unjustifiably complain about a job to TGCL? The only thing they get out of it is more mess and delay with another contractor coming in, and then only up to one worth $10,000 or less? I just don't see how it advantages a customer to lie to TGCL.
Second thing I wonder is: What is TGCL actually guaranteeing? Its website says that it will step in "If the contractor is unable to complete the project as promised." What does that mean? Why would a contractor ever not promise to complete a job? Or does it mean "with a certain identifiable level of quality that the contractor promised?" When does that ever happen and how is compliance measured? Or does a job have to be unfinished for TGCL to step in to complete $10,000-worth of a job, and the customer to, what, pay the rest?
Third thing I wonder is: How many "good contractor" complaints does TGCL get that the Earnest Guy records an ad discouraging customers from complaining about non-top-quality work that TGCL is supposed to fix?
Anyway, having a hard time perceiving the value of using TGCL.
Sorry, not finding a way of bringing this post back to The Ticket. Help me out here with something Tickety, Confessors.
I think they are little more than a referral list a la Angie’s List. They take money to be on the list. They buy some insurance to pay out some claims if the contractor walks off the job up to $10k. Sounds like they had to pay a few claims they feel they shouldn’t have had to; were take to court over it; & now they need to disclaim it.
Guess what show wasn't on this morning, and yet the other two shows were, one of them on air as I type this? Guess which show member who is always quick to reddit it up hasn't made a bit of noise about it--even after redditors are asking questions? Interesting stuff. What if that nutso WKRP commenter really did know something but was a couple of weeks off?
Today is an iHeart company holiday. The Downbeat morning show (6a-10a) and Ben & Skin elected to work today, the Speakeasy (2p-6p) chose to take the day off as originally planned.
Whether that's ultimately a bad decision or not, I don't know. But we were given a paid day off that we would lose otherwise, so everyone got to make their own choice on it.
WKRP commenter might be right eventually, but those goalposts will need to move at least once more in the meantime because we're back tomorrow.
As this appears to be the real Grubes, who was the first commenter ever on My Ticket Confession, and as you do sign your name you have plenary dispensation to appear anonymously, with the hope that no one hijacks your moniker for their own selfish purposes.
Yeah he’s that Jesus dude. He spent 90 seconds airing a commercial about Jesus. As though in Dallas, once called “the center of the evangelical world” by Christianity Today, really needed that. Yeah no one has heard about Jesus around here ! Thanks, man!
Not give us the nice bright colors here. OPreply. Was speaking to your proggy Edgelording. You can serve two Masters. But you'll end up begrudging one. Source?
Yup. Sorry to say for Grubes and Danny, and I truly mean that, but Rhyner's Suck On This is about to go bye bye. No amount of Viagra can save the little limp one now.
Rooting for Freak Failure, huh? Classy. Some of us like what they put down. They're just trying to entertain folks. No need to wish failure upon them. Like anyone there ever did anything to you.
For those that don't want to browse on over to the report, The Ticket was #1 6+ Mon-Sun, 6a-12mid. The Freak was lower in Jan than the Holiday period (ouch).
Good news though! KEGL-FM-HD2 (format: Rock) doubled from the Holiday to Jan, 0.1 to 0.2.
No, no. Not a Hitch guy, either (although he was a better writer). Not an atheist. Not an edgelord. Not a "proggy".
Just stating the obvious: if you've spent any time in DFW, you know about the Good News. You can hardly leave a Kroger's without hearing somebody talking about it.
I'm happy with my relationship with Christ. Perhaps my hope is that others will find the same.
And stop proselytizing.
And assuming things about other folks. Like serving money instead of god. (Good Contractor Guy? Using Christ to prove his Ethos to potential clients?)
Anyway. I didn't know I'd be attacked by Christ's followers for having a pretty simple complaint. Didn't want that. Didn't seek it out.
The point was the dude who runs the Good Contractor List says a lot of weird things with his own dime. Great, fine! It's his to do as he pleases. But as the Confessor pointed out, that doesn't mean it's going to go over well.
Welpton posted the ratings. If that 3-7 death spiral was referring to the Hardline, then LOL. The Hardline has a 12.9, good for #1, and a FIVE share lead over The Fan (7.3, #2). Inside Radio says KTCK is #1 6+. If they're #1 6 plus, it stands to reason that they're also #1 adults 25-54 and Men 25-54. I know Reddit loves to bag on both the Invasion and the Hot Spot, but the Invasion is first in their daypart, and according to Peet, Sweet Spot is 2nd only to KLNO. And The Freak? according to Peet, in the dayparts he posts, tied for 19th, 19th, tied for 17th, tied for 15th, 21st, 14th, tied for 17th and tied for 19th.
@Jimmy McFeeley, other than the one commenter who stated they openly rooted for The Freak to fail, that isn't the sentiment with most all Confessors. I will admit that some aren't the biggest fans of certain Freak hosts. However, I don't think anyone wants to see the individual hosts suffer personal and professional setbacks. I think the thing that most irks many non-Glenns (so ridiculous) was the way in which it came about, the now obvious how shall we charitably say, stories regarding its founding, and the attitude posed by most all on-air talent in the beginning. If The Freak is near its end, then I do hope everyone lands on their feet. But the thing is, they were given very nice salaries and benefits, have had ample advertising (unlike The Ticket ever has), and yet have performed dismally across the board. At some point the weight is too much to bear and the back breaks. Don't know if the Rubicon has been crossed, but it is most likely about to.
The Ticket absolutely killed. Even the much maligned Sweet Spot is #2 in the market during its slot (yes it's down a few points, but so too are The FAN and The Freak during that daypart). And The Invasion. Wow. I will say that Matt has toned it down and started to actually listen to Donnie and others in lieu of trying his best not to interrupt in order to make his point. They are starting to gel very nicely. Big boffo to The Hardline
Meanwhile, The Dumb Zone continues to hold steady with paid subs. Good on them. My only question is growth. I think it's great they're sustaining the initial numbers. At some juncture the inevitable occurs: either you grow or shrink and eventually die. Interested to see what DnJ's plans are. Oh, and I must state that I was 100% incorrect in thinking that the stars were pointing towards a Dumb Zone am/pm drive show on The Freak. I do not see that happening now or ever.
I know I have always heard the "If you aren't growing, you're dying" saying, but is that really the case? I would imagine the hardcore Dan and Jake fans would just keep subscribing, but I guess they'll either start to gain, or start to lose subs?
As for the ratings, great month for the ticket. Happy to see it.
Nothing is static in business. Specially when the product in question is yourself, your personality. Even more so when your consumer is as fickle and as apt to turn on you at anytime as pod subs.
I think that’s one of the downsides of pods. The radio is always there, you can listen day, afternoon, night, deep night, and something or someone will be on 24-7. With a pod, unless someone is going to re listen, once you’ve heard a pod, you’re done with that “channel”. And with TDZ’s work ethic, or lack thereof, they’re providing what 8-10 hours of content a week? They may pick up some new listeners, but also bound to be some churn of people who are tired of paying x for y amount of content. C
nSyDrJanuary 28, 2024 at 7:55 PM the death knell has officially sounded for Le Freq. could be as soon as tomorrow, more likely next week. that is all. carry out the day's business
This probably won't be a too popular comment with some, and I'm sure the calvary will ride in to show their bona fides. That's fine, I can take it. Plus, there's nothing wrong with showing how loyal you are to your particular brand. Some here call it The Cult, I prefer Brand Ambassadors. Anywho, here I go.
I began subbing TDZ Jan 1. Wanted to wait until they got their sea legs somewhat under them before I dove in. So far it is exactly like THZ except without a net. Not so sure that's a good thing. What I am sure of is that Jake is a real talent and Dan tries far too hard and not trying too hard. Listening to a 54 year old talk about masturbation and his Boomer sex life is way past its best by date. Dan sorely needs structure. As much as Blake tries, he's Dan's employee. Jake is peak Jake when he's talking sports. While he's politically astute, he's still too reliant on other's opinions and analyses. There's nothing original on that regard. Sports talk is different. He shines. This leads me to my greater point.
TDZ is fine. I wish them well but will not be reupping for March. Perhaps I'll revisit in July or August and see where it's at. I'm not sure how long it can go on as is. What needs to happen? Don't know. Here's what I'm driving at. If Cat/Bennett would've moved Dan to THL and paired Jake and Bob together, I think not only would TDZ never have happened, but also I'll go as far to say that TF might never have been born. More on that in a sec. Bob and Dan were an awkward pairing that "gelled" only because they were together for so long. We and they got used to it. If you were here in '99-06/07 you know what I mean. Dan and Jake were different in that Jake was on BaD so a relationship was forged. Forged further by the, let's call it what it was, the snubbing of Dan by moving only Bob to pm drive, which afforded Jake his big break. They also share very similar socio-political views. Having said that, Jake's forte is sports, as is Bob's. When they were a tandum it was sports-guy talk magic akin to '95-'02 Musers, sans Gordo. Again, if you were around then you know what I mean. Dan knows sports but he's more interested in being George Carlin meets Norm Macdonald. Dan would've seemlessly fit with Corby and later Davey. That trio would've provided pm drive gold that would've matched the best of The Musers. Talk about juggernaut of a sandwich with sportsy AF as the doo doo. Imagine that lineup. Just. Wow.
I also contend that Rhyner would've never signed onto TF if Dan took his place. Not that he has anything vs. Bob, but Dan was his protege of sorts and Rhyner was/is definitely Dan's leader. I think Rhyner would've said, "I can live with that/I don't want to fuck with my protege and my Erasure Bear, Davey." If Rhyner doesn't jump aboard TF, TF wouldn't have happened.
OK, let the crappening on me begin. Like I said, I can take it.
No crappening here other than to say that Rhyner's only concern seems to be Rhyner. Even if he did/does see Dan as his protege, that would not have stopped him from competing with him. TF happens regardless of who replaced Rhyner at TT.
and you know what else? sirois made a ticket quip about cumulus not letting their money get in the way of "forcing' talent to ply their trade elsewhere. that's the rub. the king pin of the whole thing (sirois, yes. he not rhner not ben or skin concocted this whole sirois enterprise thing--but needed rhyner with the skins to back the thing) and his number 2 have not only the ticket first and foremost but also all of the asshat sosh in their collective kitchen.... can't imagine that constant 2nd guessing hell hole.
It does seem as if The Ticket is still very much lives rent freein the kitchen of a few of The Ticket ex pat Freak hosts. You'd think by now that would be the last thing on their minds. You'd think their sole focus would be on righting theeir ship. Because whether they understand it or not, as is, none of them and I mean none of them will ever land another gig like this. You'd think.
I’m not going to downplay Rhyners talent. He’s got it. But the whole rest of thst station? Tap the brakes a little. No one on that station besides Rhyner and Ben and Skin have a ratings track record. Rhyners record is wildly successful. Ben and skin are so mediocre that they’ve been on what, 5 stations in 18 years or something like that? In my view they’ve always been passable in the ratings, but clearly a GM has never looked at B&S and decided they needed to be locked into a 3 or 5 year deal. Even now, doesn’t Peet’s ratings show them with one of the lower ratings amongst all the Freak shows? As for the rest of that crew as “talent”. They were all fine as producers or board ops, ticker person, etc. but none, NONE of the rest of them had honed their craft 5 days a week in their role under ratings pressure. If norms ratings were bad, Sirois isn’t the once asked to retire. If hardline ratings were bad, Danny isn’t asked to move bsck to 1 to 3. Look all these people have talent. But so much of radio is right place right time. Sirois sticks around he’s the co host of 10-1 right now and he’s fat dumb and happy. He wasn’t forced to take his talent elsewhere, his ego decided to write a check that his ass is now struggling to cash (unless you consider a 1.blah in AM drive a success). C
No, Cat told Sirois he would never be a host. So the whole narrative of “he got impatient” is false. Sirois put in his time, worked more than a decade for $35K a year, and was told there was no chance for advancement. Going somewhere else seems like the logical move.
I've heard both, that Cat told Sirois he would never be a host, and also that Cat mentioned Sirois was so close to being a host.
I've mentioned it here before, but I like Sirois, but I am not surprised if he wasn't always first up for a promotion. Dude took off as much as he worked. And he worked a 2 hour show lol.
"Cat told Sirois he would never be a host. So the whole narrative of “he got impatient” is false. Sirois put in his time, worked more than a decade for $35K a year, and was told there was no chance for advancement."
they were right! Ticket Fan Fiction is entertaining.
ragonkforce is a strong redditor. they never let reality get in the way of feelings, desires and first and foremost, the narrative. that is, that which most fully and robustly expresses the aforementioned therapeutic modalities.
to wit, it is akin to a case of mass borderline personality disorder. a paycho-ontology consisting of a childlike, black and white understanding of others and the world in which they inhabit. hence, the proclivity to project motive onto others, unconsciously hold contradictory views that lead to incoherence, believe themselves to be open minded yet are rigid in thought, leading to a lack of a moral imagination, and on and on. All of which manifests concretely in the form of episodic, emotionally charged, often angry outbursts - often expressed in short, snarky one liners with the sole intention to inflict psychological damage on others.
You know who didn’t put on a decade at 35k for (as jake sang) waiting on a ticket host to die. The much hated mcclaren. I’m not a huge Matt fan, but I’ll give the guy credit for leaving town to go work 5 days a week, 48-50 weeks a year at the job he wanted, even if it was 3 states away. If Sirois really wanted to be a host, or was really that upset w the money he could have bet on himself. But yeah a 2 hour show. You’d hear stories of Norm in there at 7am cutting up newspapers. You never heard stories of Mike at 7am. Wonder why? C
I have no insider knowledge about his work ethic. Agree about the Mclearin path. And I think that’s what Sirois did, too - bet on himself.
As far as what Cat did or didn’t say, I thought it was common knowledge from Sirois’ and Gordon’s conversation when Sirois left. Hadn’t heard anyone argue that Sirois was a host in waiting - it was a common on-air topic dating back to Sirois going into Cat’s office on white elephant day and being told on the air he would not get a host gig. Confused about the argument here…?
What I remember as common knowledge was Cat telling Sirois he was so close to the finish line and shouldn't give up now. I've never heard it said that Cat told him he would never be a host.
@Ragonk Force I agree with others that your assertion re: Cat and Sirois is incorrect. You're merely restating social media hearsay (derived in part from Sirois's now infamous appearance on Gordo's Twitch stream). But that's no crime. Pay no mind to the assholes. While there are a couple, most of us are reasonable. I venture to say far more reasonable than your average Xer or reddiitor. Hope you stick around and continue to contribute.
Question: how is it “social media heresay” if it was on the air with Cat AND in the conversation with Sirois and Gordo? I’m not a social media scourer, I mostly stick with what I hear when I listen. I’ve never heard It on air that Sirois was next man up. That’s the assertion that seems more like hearsay - any references to that idea, beyond just the “seen it somewhere, maybe here” line?
I believe it was also in the twitch stream that Sirois said Cat told him it felt like he was leaving in mile 23 of a marathon. Or something to that effect.
@RagonkForce Cat never said that on-air. No one in their right mind would. If Cat's about anything, he's about career preservation. Such a remark would be tantamount to career suicide. Sirois says a lot of things. Many are contradictory. Some are "embellished."
you’ve made this assertion before, and I don’t get it. I’ve looked at Reddit and can’t find a prolific commenter there with a variation of this name. I have been a long-time commenter here and have made less than a dozen comments there under my Reddit username (unrelated to this one).
The immediate vitriol of a couple commenters here is astonishing. Why get so worked up over something I thought was well known information? We can agree to disagree on opinions, but the ad hominems are super bizarre. Let’s all chill…
Stop the drama, if Sirois had stuck around, he absolutely would have been elevated as a host...come on now. If they eventually had to go to Sean Bass, David Mino, and Matt McClearin then of course Sirois would have been in the mix for a promotion if he stayed. The way I remember it was from Sirois on Gordon's Twitch talking about how he told Cat about his decision to leave and Cat said "You're almost at the end of a marathon" - most likely referencing Norm's retirement. I'm not sure where this turned into Sirois being told he was not host material. If he was ever told "You'll never be a host" then it was probably just referring to the station's status where no host ever leaves to open up a spot and not a comment about his qualifications.
I was there for the time wasters. Craig sang (covering U2) “ticket will be around until the end of the world”. I don’t take that literally, but I also think none of them are going to walk away before 62. I think half the musers are quitting soon talk is Freak or Fan staff hoping to wish that into existence. And I’ll say this about the whole Cat/Sirois discussion. Look at who was given the reps with the first team when a show was out. They could have called Elf, but no, it was always Donovan and Mike who got the fill in call up. I think they were clearly grooming Mike, and yes shocked that he was leaving in Mile 23. My understanding is the only source for “you’ll never be a host” is an overly emotional Mike on the Gordon twitch stream. I’m just not sure how reliable that is.
Sirois ate the sosh cheese and bought into a "your way is through me" mantra. Ditto Danny. Both men are middle-aged. The latter is closer to being a senior citizen than not. The former, I would imagine, has had the reality of no longer being a young man with everything in front of you slap him hard in the face -despite years of living in denial- and now understands the 5 head play resides in security, not the immediate. Both men, I would imagine, if given a do over would've stayed on at The Mothership. Here's an unpopular opinion: If not already, I would bet the farm that Jake will sooner rather than later come to this conclusion, even if quietly, internally. Dan. That'll take a bit longer, but it too will come. Just to head it off at the pass, let's revisit the sub numbers this time next year. If they remain steady or have increased, I'll happily eat my words.
Overly emotional and buzzed to the edge of outright drunkenness. And unlike Gordon vis-a-vis Rocco, he didn't rhetorically guide Sirois into the abyss. He merely let Sirois talk. Sirois did all the rest on his ownsome.
I like Sirois. I wish he would've "finished the marathon" and remained at The Ticket. I think if he had, the station would be even stronger than it is today, which is saying something. He would've been afforded the proper guidance and mentorship to succeed, and as such I truly believe he would've embraced the role as host, matured a bit (i.e., tempered the partying), and would've become sort of what Greggo was, sans the lies, ego trips, etc.--that is, the fan favorite/station darling and would've ensured himself a long, successful, lucrative career. Who knows where it might've taken him. Alas, we and he will never know. Instead he "bet on himself" (really?, was that really the case?) and was left to his own inexperienced devices. He now stands at the precipice of having to start all over again, probably in a different field altogether.
Who knows, maybe if things slide down that proverbial hill, The Ticket will hire him back on as a Ticker person, producer, or even a yuck monkey (Donnie and Matt could use it). Stranger things have happened. After all, TC torched the bridge on his way to Pensacola, and yet, Cat hired him back. Going to a direct competitor and shitting on management, well, perhaps that's a bridge too far scorched to repair. Again, stranger things have happened. I would love to have Sirois and Danny back at The Ticket. Miss both those guys. While the ratings haven't taken even a genuine ding since their departures, I think it's safe to say most all P1s miss those two and would love to see their return.
Best of luck to The Downbeat. I hope they make it, but truth be told and nice salaries put aside, they have not given the support to succeed. That's on both iHeart and all former Ticket Freak hosts. It's on the former Ticket now Freak hosts for pitching themselves (sans Mike R) as ready for prime time hosts. It's on iHeart for not doing its due dilligence.
Well we can all agree that if Sirois was really next man up, it was incredibly stupid for him to leave. After sticking around for a dozen years waiting for the opportunity. Almost impossibly stupid. But stranger things have happened.
Agree with you C, on the predictions - lots of terrible ones thrown around here recently. Not coming to fruition. Freak is still on. Musers are still on. Probably people wanting to speak these things into existence, and failing.
In all likelihood The Freak will not be around too much longer. Not in its present state. At least one if not more substantive changes will soon occur, if only to buy it more time to pull itself from out of the basement. My guess would be a change in the am drive slot and perhaps a retooling of the pm drive slot. I have zero inside baseball as to what transpires at The Freak, but I do know for a fact that both local and national industry folk are scratching their heads over what's taking place at 97.1. It has been and currently is an abject shit show of a disaster. I do not relish saying that. But it is. I for one was very much looking forward to some healthy competition, to hearing a reenergized Rhyner, to seeing what Sirois had in his bag, and to see how The Ticket would respond. Alas, the first two never materialized, the third has proven to be somewhat in over his head, and the fourth is of no consequence because it became apparent early on that The Freak was nothing to sweat over.
C'mon, Poor, you've been around long enough. Troll's gonna troll, it's how they roll. Being a troll, like being a political idealogue (lefor or right), means you never have to say you're sorry. Means are always and already justified by the end.
Share Bear: I don’t recall TC burning bridges on his way out the door to Florida. I only recall his I’m too smart for everyone attitude that he has always had. But that was on a daily basis.
In-house, you need to reacquaint yourself with TC's reddit AMA he did on his first trip out the door to Florida. It's hardly flattering to Ticket management, especially Cat.
Yeah, I was amazed when they said a ticket ticker guy was leaving to become a PD. “I’ve got no experience but I have an overly developed confidence in anything I do so what’s the worst that could happen”? You could get fired, that’s what. And TC never learned the most important lesson of working at the ticket. Like we are the world, check your ego at the door. Your mistakes are going to get pointed out. And as soon as you show people you’re sensitive about your mistakes, that’s blood in the water. The other employees mocked him because they knew it bothered him. After you spit out “ragonk” the way yo handle it is admit your mistake. Not tell everybody how skilled you are in your own mind. C
I never understood why Cat re-hired T.C. after he failed in Pensacola. Maybe they wanted to show that they weren't totally heartless after dismissing Greggo and Mike Bacsik. I guess Rhyner likes him because he pops up as a fill-in host on the SE. I believe he is now an Uber driver.
He was rehired because Dan and Bob went to bat for him, and you know you're getting more essentially unpaid content out of TC than the other genero spares under consideration at the time.
Do TC and Jake continue to do "It's Just Banter"? I suppose I could check that myself by doing some simple searches on the electric internet, but I'd rather you guys tell me.
I wonder: Are there enough Jake-but-not-Dan fans out there that IJB might be considered potentially leaching Dumb Zone subscribers?
Been away a while, sorry. Former employer reached out for help with a nasty problem, MTC had to move aside even further than usual.
ReplyDeleteI've gotten a kick out of the recent The Good Contractors List ad. The Earnest Guy whose name I've forgotten – here it is, founder John Stewart Hill -- has now spent an entire ad warning customers who are considering making a claim that TGCL might find their complaint unjustified and TGCL is off the hook.
First thing I wonder is: Why would a customer unjustifiably complain about a job to TGCL? The only thing they get out of it is more mess and delay with another contractor coming in, and then only up to one worth $10,000 or less? I just don't see how it advantages a customer to lie to TGCL.
Second thing I wonder is: What is TGCL actually guaranteeing? Its website says that it will step in "If the contractor is unable to complete the project as promised." What does that mean? Why would a contractor ever not promise to complete a job? Or does it mean "with a certain identifiable level of quality that the contractor promised?" When does that ever happen and how is compliance measured? Or does a job have to be unfinished for TGCL to step in to complete $10,000-worth of a job, and the customer to, what, pay the rest?
Third thing I wonder is: How many "good contractor" complaints does TGCL get that the Earnest Guy records an ad discouraging customers from complaining about non-top-quality work that TGCL is supposed to fix?
Anyway, having a hard time perceiving the value of using TGCL.
Sorry, not finding a way of bringing this post back to The Ticket. Help me out here with something Tickety, Confessors.
Isn’t he the Jesus guy?
ReplyDeleteI'm thinking you are theologically impoverished, Kodak Black. But don't let that stop you. You're a clever one, you.
ReplyDeleteI think they are little more than a referral list a la Angie’s List. They take money to be on the list. They buy some insurance to pay out some claims if the contractor walks off the job up to $10k. Sounds like they had to pay a few claims they feel they shouldn’t have had to; were take to court over it; & now they need to disclaim it.
ReplyDeleteIt always sounded sketchy to me.
He’s definitely the Jesus guy
ReplyDeleteWhat does 10k even get you these days? Pretty lame.
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DeleteThank you for your courage plains
DeleteTouchy, thin skinned bitch. You, I like.
ReplyDeleteI'm the one I've been waiting for.
ReplyDeleteGuess what show wasn't on this morning, and yet the other two shows were, one of them on air as I type this? Guess which show member who is always quick to reddit it up hasn't made a bit of noise about it--even after redditors are asking questions? Interesting stuff. What if that nutso WKRP commenter really did know something but was a couple of weeks off?
ReplyDeleteI'm guessing this is directed at me. :)
DeleteToday is an iHeart company holiday. The Downbeat morning show (6a-10a) and Ben & Skin elected to work today, the Speakeasy (2p-6p) chose to take the day off as originally planned.
Whether that's ultimately a bad decision or not, I don't know. But we were given a paid day off that we would lose otherwise, so everyone got to make their own choice on it.
WKRP commenter might be right eventually, but those goalposts will need to move at least once more in the meantime because we're back tomorrow.
And now I'll go reply on reddit!
I’m very confused. The Musers and Downbeat were both on this morning. Which show are you talking about?
ReplyDeleteNot aimed at you, Grubes. KT. Thanks for clearing things up.
ReplyDeleteAh, fair enough! Love you.
Delete(Sorry this is showing anonymous, Mr. Plainsman…not sure why!)
Grubes
As this appears to be the real Grubes, who was the first commenter ever on My Ticket Confession, and as you do sign your name you have plenary dispensation to appear anonymously, with the hope that no one hijacks your moniker for their own selfish purposes.
DeleteAh, I missed the name/URL option! Google sign in is being weird. You can always email or tweet me if you’re not sure, Mr. Plainsman!
DeleteYeah he’s that Jesus dude. He spent 90 seconds airing a commercial about Jesus. As though in Dallas, once called “the center of the evangelical world” by Christianity Today, really needed that. Yeah no one has heard about Jesus around here ! Thanks, man!
ReplyDeleteSolipsistic ass.
Do you need a hug Dawkins Man? Edgelording is a ruff n tuff biz, bruh.
DeleteNo, no. Not a Dawkins man. Haven’t ever read him. Nor am I an atheist.
ReplyDeleteBut to paraphrase another Englishman, Tony Wilson, “You’re just effing wrong.”
Not give us the nice bright colors here. OPreply. Was speaking to your proggy Edgelording. You can serve two Masters. But you'll end up begrudging one. Source?
DeleteSorry, youre defo a Hitch Man.
ReplyDeleteI am a rooter for Freak Failure, so was happy to see this: https://ratings.radio-online.com/content/arb024
ReplyDeleteYup. Sorry to say for Grubes and Danny, and I truly mean that, but Rhyner's Suck On This is about to go bye bye. No amount of Viagra can save the little limp one now.
DeleteRooting for Freak Failure, huh? Classy. Some of us like what they put down. They're just trying to entertain folks. No need to wish failure upon them. Like anyone there ever did anything to you.
DeleteFor those that don't want to browse on over to the report, The Ticket was #1 6+ Mon-Sun, 6a-12mid. The Freak was lower in Jan than the Holiday period (ouch).
DeleteGood news though! KEGL-FM-HD2 (format: Rock) doubled from the Holiday to Jan, 0.1 to 0.2.
Just wait til peet drops the ratings breakdown tomorrow
ReplyDeleteYes, I hope he does. I noticed he skipped the holiday-season report
DeleteThe Holiday book is meaningless and he never posts it
ReplyDelete3-7 death spiral
ReplyDeleteNo, no. Not a Hitch guy, either (although he was a better writer). Not an atheist. Not an edgelord. Not a "proggy".
ReplyDeleteJust stating the obvious: if you've spent any time in DFW, you know about the Good News. You can hardly leave a Kroger's without hearing somebody talking about it.
I'm happy with my relationship with Christ. Perhaps my hope is that others will find the same.
And stop proselytizing.
And assuming things about other folks. Like serving money instead of god. (Good Contractor Guy? Using Christ to prove his Ethos to potential clients?)
Anyway. I didn't know I'd be attacked by Christ's followers for having a pretty simple complaint. Didn't want that. Didn't seek it out.
The point was the dude who runs the Good Contractor List says a lot of weird things with his own dime. Great, fine! It's his to do as he pleases. But as the Confessor pointed out, that doesn't mean it's going to go over well.
Welpton posted the ratings. If that 3-7 death spiral was referring to the Hardline, then LOL. The Hardline has a 12.9, good for #1, and a FIVE share lead over The Fan (7.3, #2).
ReplyDeleteInside Radio says KTCK is #1 6+. If they're #1 6 plus, it stands to reason that they're also #1 adults 25-54 and Men 25-54. I know Reddit loves to bag on both the Invasion and the Hot Spot, but the Invasion is first in their daypart, and according to Peet, Sweet Spot is 2nd only to KLNO.
And The Freak? according to Peet, in the dayparts he posts, tied for 19th, 19th, tied for 17th, tied for 15th, 21st, 14th, tied for 17th and tied for 19th.
It was obviously addressing the Freq
DeleteSo a 3-7 death spiral for a show that is on from 2-6pm. Makes perfect sense
DeleteIf I could post the pdf here, I would. So here’s the link: https://www.reddit.com/r/theticket/s/ZX3NS2RNPo
ReplyDeleteThanks, Peter. You do us all a great service.
ReplyDelete@Jimmy McFeeley, other than the one commenter who stated they openly rooted for The Freak to fail, that isn't the sentiment with most all Confessors. I will admit that some aren't the biggest fans of certain Freak hosts. However, I don't think anyone wants to see the individual hosts suffer personal and professional setbacks. I think the thing that most irks many non-Glenns (so ridiculous) was the way in which it came about, the now obvious how shall we charitably say, stories regarding its founding, and the attitude posed by most all on-air talent in the beginning. If The Freak is near its end, then I do hope everyone lands on their feet. But the thing is, they were given very nice salaries and benefits, have had ample advertising (unlike The Ticket ever has), and yet have performed dismally across the board. At some point the weight is too much to bear and the back breaks. Don't know if the Rubicon has been crossed, but it is most likely about to.
The Ticket absolutely killed. Even the much maligned Sweet Spot is #2 in the market during its slot (yes it's down a few points, but so too are The FAN and The Freak during that daypart). And The Invasion. Wow. I will say that Matt has toned it down and started to actually listen to Donnie and others in lieu of trying his best not to interrupt in order to make his point. They are starting to gel very nicely. Big boffo to The Hardline
Meanwhile, The Dumb Zone continues to hold steady with paid subs. Good on them. My only question is growth. I think it's great they're sustaining the initial numbers. At some juncture the inevitable occurs: either you grow or shrink and eventually die. Interested to see what DnJ's plans are. Oh, and I must state that I was 100% incorrect in thinking that the stars were pointing towards a Dumb Zone am/pm drive show on The Freak. I do not see that happening now or ever.
I know I have always heard the "If you aren't growing, you're dying" saying, but is that really the case? I would imagine the hardcore Dan and Jake fans would just keep subscribing, but I guess they'll either start to gain, or start to lose subs?
ReplyDeleteAs for the ratings, great month for the ticket. Happy to see it.
Nothing is static in business. Specially when the product in question is yourself, your personality. Even more so when your consumer is as fickle and as apt to turn on you at anytime as pod subs.
DeleteI think that’s one of the downsides of pods. The radio is always there, you can listen day, afternoon, night, deep night, and something or someone will be on 24-7. With a pod, unless someone is going to re listen, once you’ve heard a pod, you’re done with that “channel”. And with TDZ’s work ethic, or lack thereof, they’re providing what 8-10 hours of content a week? They may pick up some new listeners, but also bound to be some churn of people who are tired of paying x for y amount of content.
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nSyDrJanuary 28, 2024 at 7:55 PM the death knell has officially sounded for Le Freq. could be as soon as tomorrow, more likely next week. that is all. carry out the day's business
ReplyDeleteMaybe he was a few weeks off.
DeleteThis probably won't be a too popular comment with some, and I'm sure the calvary will ride in to show their bona fides. That's fine, I can take it. Plus, there's nothing wrong with showing how loyal you are to your particular brand. Some here call it The Cult, I prefer Brand Ambassadors. Anywho, here I go.
ReplyDeleteI began subbing TDZ Jan 1. Wanted to wait until they got their sea legs somewhat under them before I dove in. So far it is exactly like THZ except without a net. Not so sure that's a good thing. What I am sure of is that Jake is a real talent and Dan tries far too hard and not trying too hard. Listening to a 54 year old talk about masturbation and his Boomer sex life is way past its best by date. Dan sorely needs structure. As much as Blake tries, he's Dan's employee. Jake is peak Jake when he's talking sports. While he's politically astute, he's still too reliant on other's opinions and analyses. There's nothing original on that regard. Sports talk is different. He shines. This leads me to my greater point.
TDZ is fine. I wish them well but will not be reupping for March. Perhaps I'll revisit in July or August and see where it's at. I'm not sure how long it can go on as is. What needs to happen? Don't know. Here's what I'm driving at. If Cat/Bennett would've moved Dan to THL and paired Jake and Bob together, I think not only would TDZ never have happened, but also I'll go as far to say that TF might never have been born. More on that in a sec. Bob and Dan were an awkward pairing that "gelled" only because they were together for so long. We and they got used to it. If you were here in '99-06/07 you know what I mean. Dan and Jake were different in that Jake was on BaD so a relationship was forged. Forged further by the, let's call it what it was, the snubbing of Dan by moving only Bob to pm drive, which afforded Jake his big break. They also share very similar socio-political views. Having said that, Jake's forte is sports, as is Bob's. When they were a tandum it was sports-guy talk magic akin to '95-'02 Musers, sans Gordo. Again, if you were around then you know what I mean. Dan knows sports but he's more interested in being George Carlin meets Norm Macdonald. Dan would've seemlessly fit with Corby and later Davey. That trio would've provided pm drive gold that would've matched the best of The Musers. Talk about juggernaut of a sandwich with sportsy AF as the doo doo. Imagine that lineup. Just. Wow.
I also contend that Rhyner would've never signed onto TF if Dan took his place. Not that he has anything vs. Bob, but Dan was his protege of sorts and Rhyner was/is definitely Dan's leader. I think Rhyner would've said, "I can live with that/I don't want to fuck with my protege and my Erasure Bear, Davey." If Rhyner doesn't jump aboard TF, TF wouldn't have happened.
OK, let the crappening on me begin. Like I said, I can take it.
No crappening here other than to say that Rhyner's only concern seems to be Rhyner. Even if he did/does see Dan as his protege, that would not have stopped him from competing with him. TF happens regardless of who replaced Rhyner at TT.
DeleteFair enough. Hard to argue against Rhyner's thirst for all things Rhyner.
DeleteIf only Dan Bennett didn't hate Dan.
ReplyDeleteAlso if the Freak is never born then Davey never gets called up.
Misreading the room on that second half of that one, KTDK. Makes zero sense.
DeleteDan Bennett probably doesn't like Dan. I don't recall ever hearing about contract negotiations or hold outs really, unless it involved Dan lol.
DeleteThat's an idiotic speculation, lol.
DeleteWhy? How did that affect his hire? To combat a nothing of a show?
ReplyDeleteTicket Fan Fiction is, honestly, an entertaining read.
ReplyDeleteMeh. Needs more sex.
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DeleteRhyner took a shot at the Birddogs early in the show yesterday. I guess him and the Commander are not on the best terms anymore.
ReplyDeleteand you know what else? sirois made a ticket quip about cumulus not letting their money get in the way of "forcing' talent to ply their trade elsewhere. that's the rub. the king pin of the whole thing (sirois, yes. he not rhner not ben or skin concocted this whole sirois enterprise thing--but needed rhyner with the skins to back the thing) and his number 2 have not only the ticket first and foremost but also all of the asshat sosh in their collective kitchen.... can't imagine that constant 2nd guessing hell hole.
ReplyDeleteIt does seem as if The Ticket is still very much lives rent freein the kitchen of a few of The Ticket ex pat Freak hosts. You'd think by now that would be the last thing on their minds. You'd think their sole focus would be on righting theeir ship. Because whether they understand it or not, as is, none of them and I mean none of them will ever land another gig like this. You'd think.
DeleteI’m not going to downplay Rhyners talent. He’s got it. But the whole rest of thst station? Tap the brakes a little. No one on that station besides Rhyner and Ben and Skin have a ratings track record. Rhyners record is wildly successful. Ben and skin are so mediocre that they’ve been on what, 5 stations in 18 years or something like that? In my view they’ve always been passable in the ratings, but clearly a GM has never looked at B&S and decided they needed to be locked into a 3 or 5 year deal. Even now, doesn’t Peet’s ratings show them with one of the lower ratings amongst all the Freak shows?
ReplyDeleteAs for the rest of that crew as “talent”. They were all fine as producers or board ops, ticker person, etc. but none, NONE of the rest of them had honed their craft 5 days a week in their role under ratings pressure. If norms ratings were bad, Sirois isn’t the once asked to retire. If hardline ratings were bad, Danny isn’t asked to move bsck to 1 to 3.
Look all these people have talent. But so much of radio is right place right time. Sirois sticks around he’s the co host of 10-1 right now and he’s fat dumb and happy. He wasn’t forced to take his talent elsewhere, his ego decided to write a check that his ass is now struggling to cash (unless you consider a 1.blah in AM drive a success).
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No, Cat told Sirois he would never be a host. So the whole narrative of “he got impatient” is false. Sirois put in his time, worked more than a decade for $35K a year, and was told there was no chance for advancement. Going somewhere else seems like the logical move.
DeleteI've heard both, that Cat told Sirois he would never be a host, and also that Cat mentioned Sirois was so close to being a host.
DeleteI've mentioned it here before, but I like Sirois, but I am not surprised if he wasn't always first up for a promotion. Dude took off as much as he worked. And he worked a 2 hour show lol.
"Cat told Sirois he would never be a host. So the whole narrative of “he got impatient” is false. Sirois put in his time, worked more than a decade for $35K a year, and was told there was no chance for advancement."
Deletethey were right! Ticket Fan Fiction is entertaining.
ragonkforce is a strong redditor. they never let reality get in the way of feelings, desires and first and foremost, the narrative. that is, that which most fully and robustly expresses the aforementioned therapeutic modalities.
Deleteto wit, it is akin to a case of mass borderline personality disorder. a paycho-ontology consisting of a childlike, black and white understanding of others and the world in which they inhabit. hence, the proclivity to project motive onto others, unconsciously hold contradictory views that lead to incoherence, believe themselves to be open minded yet are rigid in thought, leading to a lack of a moral imagination, and on and on. All of which manifests concretely in the form of episodic, emotionally charged, often angry outbursts - often expressed in short, snarky one liners with the sole intention to inflict psychological damage on others.
Deletetalking here about the phenomenon of the sosh and those who ride and die with it. not ragonk force personally.
DeleteYou know who didn’t put on a decade at 35k for (as jake sang) waiting on a ticket host to die. The much hated mcclaren. I’m not a huge Matt fan, but I’ll give the guy credit for leaving town to go work 5 days a week, 48-50 weeks a year at the job he wanted, even if it was 3 states away.
ReplyDeleteIf Sirois really wanted to be a host, or was really that upset w the money he could have bet on himself.
But yeah a 2 hour show. You’d hear stories of Norm in there at 7am cutting up newspapers. You never heard stories of Mike at 7am. Wonder why?
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I have no insider knowledge about his work ethic. Agree about the Mclearin path. And I think that’s what Sirois did, too - bet on himself.
DeleteAs far as what Cat did or didn’t say, I thought it was common knowledge from Sirois’ and Gordon’s conversation when Sirois left. Hadn’t heard anyone argue that Sirois was a host in waiting - it was a common on-air topic dating back to Sirois going into Cat’s office on white elephant day and being told on the air he would not get a host gig. Confused about the argument here…?
What I remember as common knowledge was Cat telling Sirois he was so close to the finish line and shouldn't give up now. I've never heard it said that Cat told him he would never be a host.
DeleteThis is what I’m referencing. I didn’t hear it on air, just seen it mention probably here or somewhere.
Delete@Ragonk Force
DeleteI agree with others that your assertion re: Cat and Sirois is incorrect. You're merely restating social media hearsay (derived in part from Sirois's now infamous appearance on Gordo's Twitch stream). But that's no crime. Pay no mind to the assholes. While there are a couple, most of us are reasonable. I venture to say far more reasonable than your average Xer or reddiitor. Hope you stick around and continue to contribute.
Appreciate it Giggles!
DeleteQuestion: how is it “social media heresay” if it was on the air with Cat AND in the conversation with Sirois and Gordo? I’m not a social media scourer, I mostly stick with what I hear when I listen. I’ve never heard It on air that Sirois was next man up. That’s the assertion that seems more like hearsay - any references to that idea, beyond just the “seen it somewhere, maybe here” line?
I believe it was also in the twitch stream that Sirois said Cat told him it felt like he was leaving in mile 23 of a marathon. Or something to that effect.
DeleteGot it. Thanks!
Delete@RagonkForce
DeleteCat never said that on-air. No one in their right mind would. If Cat's about anything, he's about career preservation. Such a remark would be tantamount to career suicide. Sirois says a lot of things. Many are contradictory. Some are "embellished."
Ragonk force has a difficult time ascertaining and expressing the truth. It has a track record here and on reddit. Fwiw.
ReplyDeleteyou’ve made this assertion before, and I don’t get it. I’ve looked at Reddit and can’t find a prolific commenter there with a variation of this name. I have been a long-time commenter here and have made less than a dozen comments there under my Reddit username (unrelated to this one).
DeleteThe immediate vitriol of a couple commenters here is astonishing. Why get so worked up over something I thought was well known information? We can agree to disagree on opinions, but the ad hominems are super bizarre. Let’s all chill…
You dorks need to take a nap.
ReplyDeleteStop the drama, if Sirois had stuck around, he absolutely would have been elevated as a host...come on now. If they eventually had to go to Sean Bass, David Mino, and Matt McClearin then of course Sirois would have been in the mix for a promotion if he stayed. The way I remember it was from Sirois on Gordon's Twitch talking about how he told Cat about his decision to leave and Cat said "You're almost at the end of a marathon" - most likely referencing Norm's retirement. I'm not sure where this turned into Sirois being told he was not host material. If he was ever told "You'll never be a host" then it was probably just referring to the station's status where no host ever leaves to open up a spot and not a comment about his qualifications.
ReplyDeleteDid George or musers announce retirement?
ReplyDeleteMaybe we shouldn't say anything about that, lest we wake up the troll. Just let it pass. I think C is onto something about Freak/Fan operatives.
DeleteNope, not in December, not in January, not in February. I agree it is not going to happen.
DeleteI was there for the time wasters. Craig sang (covering U2) “ticket will be around until the end of the world”. I don’t take that literally, but I also think none of them are going to walk away before 62. I think half the musers are quitting soon talk is Freak or Fan staff hoping to wish that into existence.
ReplyDeleteAnd I’ll say this about the whole Cat/Sirois discussion. Look at who was given the reps with the first team when a show was out. They could have called Elf, but no, it was always Donovan and Mike who got the fill in call up. I think they were clearly grooming Mike, and yes shocked that he was leaving in Mile 23. My understanding is the only source for “you’ll never be a host” is an overly emotional Mike on the Gordon twitch stream. I’m just not sure how reliable that is.
C minus this makes a lot of sense. Well done.
DeleteAnd thank you for avoiding the he shares commentary. Love ur buns.
DeleteSirois ate the sosh cheese and bought into a "your way is through me" mantra. Ditto Danny. Both men are middle-aged. The latter is closer to being a senior citizen than not. The former, I would imagine, has had the reality of no longer being a young man with everything in front of you slap him hard in the face -despite years of living in denial- and now understands the 5 head play resides in security, not the immediate. Both men, I would imagine, if given a do over would've stayed on at The Mothership. Here's an unpopular opinion: If not already, I would bet the farm that Jake will sooner rather than later come to this conclusion, even if quietly, internally. Dan. That'll take a bit longer, but it too will come. Just to head it off at the pass, let's revisit the sub numbers this time next year. If they remain steady or have increased, I'll happily eat my words.
DeleteOverly emotional and buzzed to the edge of outright drunkenness. And unlike Gordon vis-a-vis Rocco, he didn't rhetorically guide Sirois into the abyss. He merely let Sirois talk. Sirois did all the rest on his ownsome.
DeleteI like Sirois. I wish he would've "finished the marathon" and remained at The Ticket. I think if he had, the station would be even stronger than it is today, which is saying something. He would've been afforded the proper guidance and mentorship to succeed, and as such I truly believe he would've embraced the role as host, matured a bit (i.e., tempered the partying), and would've become sort of what Greggo was, sans the lies, ego trips, etc.--that is, the fan favorite/station darling and would've ensured himself a long, successful, lucrative career. Who knows where it might've taken him. Alas, we and he will never know. Instead he "bet on himself" (really?, was that really the case?) and was left to his own inexperienced devices. He now stands at the precipice of having to start all over again, probably in a different field altogether.
Who knows, maybe if things slide down that proverbial hill, The Ticket will hire him back on as a Ticker person, producer, or even a yuck monkey (Donnie and Matt could use it). Stranger things have happened. After all, TC torched the bridge on his way to Pensacola, and yet, Cat hired him back. Going to a direct competitor and shitting on management, well, perhaps that's a bridge too far scorched to repair. Again, stranger things have happened. I would love to have Sirois and Danny back at The Ticket. Miss both those guys. While the ratings haven't taken even a genuine ding since their departures, I think it's safe to say most all P1s miss those two and would love to see their return.
Best of luck to The Downbeat. I hope they make it, but truth be told and nice salaries put aside, they have not given the support to succeed. That's on both iHeart and all former Ticket Freak hosts. It's on the former Ticket now Freak hosts for pitching themselves (sans Mike R) as ready for prime time hosts. It's on iHeart for not doing its due dilligence.
Well we can all agree that if Sirois was really next man up, it was incredibly stupid for him to leave. After sticking around for a dozen years waiting for the opportunity. Almost impossibly stupid. But stranger things have happened.
ReplyDeleteAgree with you C, on the predictions - lots of terrible ones thrown around here recently. Not coming to fruition. Freak is still on. Musers are still on. Probably people wanting to speak these things into existence, and failing.
In all likelihood The Freak will not be around too much longer. Not in its present state. At least one if not more substantive changes will soon occur, if only to buy it more time to pull itself from out of the basement. My guess would be a change in the am drive slot and perhaps a retooling of the pm drive slot. I have zero inside baseball as to what transpires at The Freak, but I do know for a fact that both local and national industry folk are scratching their heads over what's taking place at 97.1. It has been and currently is an abject shit show of a disaster. I do not relish saying that. But it is. I for one was very much looking forward to some healthy competition, to hearing a reenergized Rhyner, to seeing what Sirois had in his bag, and to see how The Ticket would respond. Alas, the first two never materialized, the third has proven to be somewhat in over his head, and the fourth is of no consequence because it became apparent early on that The Freak was nothing to sweat over.
DeleteI believe a troll owes me an apology. But, waiting for that would be a little like finding diarrhea in a cornfield.
ReplyDeleteThis is a blogspot comment section. Nobody owes anyone anything. Chill, scro.
DeleteC'mon, Poor, you've been around long enough. Troll's gonna troll, it's how they roll. Being a troll, like being a political idealogue (lefor or right), means you never have to say you're sorry. Means are always and already justified by the end.
DeleteShare Bear: I don’t recall TC burning bridges on his way out the door to Florida. I only recall his I’m too smart for everyone attitude that he has always had. But that was on a daily basis.
ReplyDeleteIn-house, you need to reacquaint yourself with TC's reddit AMA he did on his first trip out the door to Florida. It's hardly flattering to Ticket management, especially Cat.
ReplyDeletehttps://www.reddit.com/r/theticket/comments/22kfow/ama_tc/
Never seen someone with zero skins on the wall be so confident. I don’t think that worked in his favor….
DeleteTC Fleming is a great example of the adage "water finds its own level"
DeleteYeah, I was amazed when they said a ticket ticker guy was leaving to become a PD. “I’ve got no experience but I have an overly developed confidence in anything I do so what’s the worst that could happen”?
ReplyDeleteYou could get fired, that’s what.
And TC never learned the most important lesson of working at the ticket. Like we are the world, check your ego at the door. Your mistakes are going to get pointed out. And as soon as you show people you’re sensitive about your mistakes, that’s blood in the water. The other employees mocked him because they knew it bothered him. After you spit out “ragonk” the way yo handle it is admit your mistake. Not tell everybody how skilled you are in your own mind.
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I never understood why Cat re-hired T.C. after he failed in Pensacola. Maybe they wanted to show that they weren't totally heartless after dismissing Greggo and Mike Bacsik. I guess Rhyner likes him because he pops up as a fill-in host on the SE. I believe he is now an Uber driver.
ReplyDelete"I never understood why Cat re-hired T.C." = Dan McDowell
DeleteHe was rehired because Dan and Bob went to bat for him, and you know you're getting more essentially unpaid content out of TC than the other genero spares under consideration at the time.
DeleteDo TC and Jake continue to do "It's Just Banter"? I suppose I could check that myself by doing some simple searches on the electric internet, but I'd rather you guys tell me.
ReplyDeleteI wonder: Are there enough Jake-but-not-Dan fans out there that IJB might be considered potentially leaching Dumb Zone subscribers?
Before the calendar year of 2025 ends, IJB will still be standing. TDZ will not. Mark.
Delete^ from the people who brought you "next January Dan and Jake will be at the freak, I guarantee it!"
Deletetheir patreon has new shows every couple of weeks. hard to say that it's still standing.
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