A home for those who love almost everything about The Ticket (1310 AM, 96.7 FM, Dallas-Fort Worth), and who would like to discuss -- respectfully and fondly -- their thoughts on how (and whether) to eliminate the "almost."
Monday, September 23, 2024
Random Items, and Let's Step Up the Comment Quality, What Say?
(1) I join Confessors who have expressed good wishes to Jake Kemp and his loved ones if his recent absence is related to any personal matter. If the reason has been clarified, I missed it, so maybe I'm too far out of the loop on matters related to Dan and Jake. In any case, best wishes to him and his.
If the speculation of a return to The Ticket turns out to be true – it seems rather unlikely, but stranger things have happened in Da Medias – I would welcome that. I would, however, regret any departure of Sean Bass or David Mino or Matt McClearin or anyone else whose place he might take, none of whom, in my opinion, have underperformed in the roles they have been asked to perform.
(2) I've been out of town most of the summer and have lost track of the comings and goings of former Ticket personnel. In general, "new media" doesn't seem to be any more forgiving than old media, nor any more interesting.
As far as Dan + Jake + lawyers as crusaders against noncompetes is concerned, my uncomprehensive review of news items reveals that (1) one court has declined enjoin the Federal Trade Commisision's broad banning of them (presumably similar to what the lawyers have asked the National Labor Relations Board to do), (2) two have preliminary enjoined enforcement of the rule, which pretty much means defeat in those courts for the D+J+L position, and (3) the judge in the Cumulus lawsuit very strongly hinted that she would rule against D+J+L on invalidation of the noncompete if the case were not settled. (But D+J+L still win on the factual issue, i.e., Cumulus had not proved the injury necessary to get an injunction against D+J for violation, which is the more important victory in the case.) So the courts are trending away from the D+J+L position on the validity of noncompetition covenants. I urge law-watchers who are following this more closely to correct the foregoing.
Personally, I don't think the law is going to end up looking like D+J+L have argued for. Even if the issue is not resolved in the lower courts (it may be resolved at the Supreme Court, which in its current incarnation would almost certainly rule against D+J+L's position), Congress will not allow this kind of regulatory lawmaking, especially as this particular exercise of power would be a blow to federalism (shared authority between the US and the states).
(3) I never thought I'd miss the old Kars-for-Kids jingle, but then I heard the new one.
(4) I'm going to step up my vigilance on comments I don’t understand or that cheese me off, which, because I am getting dumber and crankier, means more deletions.
PS: It would be helpful if commenters would use fewer initializations. While most of them are clear enough, some are not and all of them slow down the reading.
0% Jake returns to the ticket. They would have not relaunched the Dumb Zone, on a new platform with a new price point if that were the case. That would destroy the good will and good vibes they’ve worked so hard to establish over the last year. That would be the ultimate bait and switch.
I think it’s pretty clear Jake is going through some personal issues and will be back in due time.
Corby from the top-rope! Enews about Diddy- -who doesn't love a nice Freak-off? Thats too bad that radio station collapsed, this would be a perfect tie in for them! They missed out! & On FM! -plus a nice little Seacow metal bats drop *chefs kiss.*
Very DZ handle there, GashMaster. Regardless, I agree with you, and I'll go one further: There is no way Jake, Dan, Danny, Julie, or Sirois ever again work for any Cumulus entity, much less The Ticket. Meet the New Boss is yet another in a long line of wannabe agents of chaos. No Puppet has a long way to go. Not sure if they'll get there, but I respect that they're trying. As Plainsman hints at, and I agree with, it matters not the platform and/or business model; the only things that do matter are appeal and finding your audience and growing it. I've zero business savvy, so I'm not going to pretend otherwise. I'd like to think No Puppet has competent advisors who've built up and had success with such an enterprise, and that soon we'll see growth. What I will say is that the numbers have been fairly static for a year, and they seem to be only adding ex-Ticket/Ticket adjacent talent. As one who wants to see No Puppet do well, it's a bit concerning. How will these moves garner a larger audience? Seems like more preaching to the choir than not. Plus, most of the new names have already failed to amass an audience on a far larger stage.
Whatever happens, props to them for giving it a real go.
Not sure why people are speculating this about returning to TT when Jake's personal well being is the concern here. His absence seems to be very personal and not career related.
Not sure if you're being a virtue signalling troll or genuine. In charity I'll assume the latter. In the previous thread, there were numerous claims that Jake was returning to The Ticket.
I appreciate your grace and charity and your kindness in the way you are handling your site responsibilities in the role of "virtue signaling" arbiter. My non trolling comment above is related to the fact that the evidence points towards a serious personal matter not involving career path. I could be wrong but time will tell. In other words there is no reason to think as many have pointed out that this has anything to do with going back to TT.
I doubt any of the expats would be hired at the Ticket at this point. TC did burn his bridges pretty completly when he left for his PD gig and he was brought back. He still had Bob, Dan and maybe the OGW in his corner to fight for him. I'm not sure that any who left has anyone on the staff that would have their back at this point. The only way I can see it happening is if there were some sort of winfall money wise to Cumulus, then I'm sure everything could be forgiven.
Sorry but the fact that anyone is giving any real consideration to the possibility of Jake returning to the Ticket is patently absurd. The reasons for this are obvious and were eloquently explained by others in the last thread. In no world does TT mgmt want or need him back.
You guys are underestimating the brilliance of Jeff Catlin. He has been running the Ticket for decades and knows what to say and do to get Jake back in the fold. Trust in the Cat Man (real good dude too!)
I know you. Have it your way at. . . . . . initials. Aren't you busy admin'n the other place? Then again, MTC has far more traffic than your baby, doesn't it.
Totally agree. I suggested as much by saying that the evidence points to a serious personal matter and concerned for his well being and was accused of virtue signaling. There are a few cunning linguists who have correctly pointed out that the act of accusing someone of virtue signaling is in itself a form of virtue signaling. If I am wrong and he returns to the Ticket I will withdraw my virtuous concern for his well being.
I know there is plenty of sanctimony to go around about how Jake doesn't owe anyone an explanation, but if I were a paying customer of a year-old podcast still fully in the "support us just because" phase, I would want a reason why he's not there. Doesn't have to be specific, but something is warranted. I feel like there is an element of Gordon Keith mystery man cosplay happening here.
Totally agree. People are paying for Dan & Jake....and Blake. If your business is fully dependent on people paying for your content, maybe just a quick note to those subscribers. There's no doubt that him being gone is in the 'Personal' category - I just think him putting something out there would have been better than Dan's "let the speculation begin" comments
My guess, and I hope I'm right because it would mean everything in Jake's world is OK, is that he's on vacation. Two weeks is pretty standard vacay timeframe. As far as the mystery surrounding it and the fact that Dan has even trolled it a bit goes, that falls right into line with TDZ total continuation of THZ (except they can cuss!). Dan's out for 4 days to take his daughter to college, and how is it put? Oh yes, he's been suspended by Dan Bennett for something said on-air. Jake's turn for his staggered vacation. Hey everyone, Jake's holding out for more money (well he did do that). The bit gets double downed upon when the sosh starts floating theories. I'm thinking (and hoping) that's what's happening here. Jake will return and then it's Dan's two week break.
Jake would be hosting with Donnie right now, but unfortunately his time with Dan turned a different path. (Dan was leaving, regardless. The Split of BaD / Him staying in middays- he was Done).
What it comes down to is Jake made a grave mistake leaving the ticket and surrounding himself with people like Dan and TC. If Jake had taken head from people like Cat and Bob he would not be in the situation he is in now.
Yes, Bob is more management friendly than Dan...but he's also way more talented, works harder, and is more of a fit at a station that calls itself SPORTStalk.
Agreed Nandor. I kinda feel like Dan was just chilling enjoying middays, going through the motions to a degree. Bob was working pretty hard. Then a promotion came up and Bob got it, naturally. Dan then realized there was a reason to work harder.
I don’t think you listened closely enough to what Dan brought to the table. All the audio stuff and Homer call and whatnot, whether or not you thought it was good, is super labor intensive to produce. Don’t get me wrong, Bob works hard too, but a lot of what Bob brought was doubled up for other work (articles he was writing or research he was doing for Aikman). Bob was a lot more in your face about grinding tape but I would guarantee that Dan worked just as hard (if not harder if just talking about their radio show) as Bob, he was just a lot more subtle about it.
Kinda thought it was interns too, but don't really know. I never really liked the audio component of their shows. Thought it was a filler. All shows do it to some degree, but I felt like they relied on it too much.
Dan was always verbally abusive to interns and exploited them for content he couldn’t produce himself. Bob seemed like the guy who was kind to the interns and gave them his time and support.
I tend to agree that Bob is/was the harder worker. I will say though that my brother in law was a BaD radio intern 20 years ago and he said that Dan was by far the nicer one of the two to their interns. Not that Bob was mean, just more ambivalent towards them. Could have changed over the years, but at least back then he much preferred Dan over Bob.
Actually, Dan has been more than a little bit encouraging speculation on Jake's whereabouts. I can't imagine something serious going on and Dan making a bit out of it. Yes, I know, we're talking about the wannabe Andy Kaufmann meets Norm MacDonald. Still, some things you don't joke about. But who the fuck knows. I do know that the tenor of many a comment on DZ reddit rings a sour note. From the price hike to the "non-disclosure" on Jake to adding too many voices to the mix to the quality of the content, while the majority still think everything is gold, there's a growing faction (that's getting louder) that says otherwise. It's to be expected. So it's not as if this burgeoning trend portends a downturn in subs. Again. Who the fuck knows.
Except for the inconvenient fact that the number of Stackers doesn't make up the difference of the Patreon subs lost. Not even close. Sorry 'bout that, scruhttie.
How would you even know that? I don’t think Substack releases paid subscriber numbers. And DZ has over total 8,000 Substack subscribers. I switched from Patreon to Substack (both paid)
Here's the facts - TDZ subscriber numbers have dropped since 9.26.23....no matter platform change. A big drop off probably did happen in the last few weeks. This was not the plan. This is full on "Wild Card, Bitches!" Maybe they break on through to the other side. Maybe, and more than likely, they don't. Major props for giving it a go, though!
September 2023 they had 5,277 paid Patreon subscribers. As of this moment they have 5,886 paid Patreon subscribers plus some number of paid Substack subscribers. 5,886 is greater than 5,277. Your comment that the have lost subscribers since September 26, 2023 is incorrect.
Actual Facts 1. They’ve moved to a platform that will take less of a percentage of their subscriptions and actually courted them to sign them on. With the higher subscription rate and less percentage taken they don’t need as many subscribers to make equal or more money. Substack doesn’t do that if they’re failing on Patreon. 2. They’ve hired Danny, Julie, Jasmine and Rob all as direct employees. You can’t do that without cash flow. 3. They were also courted by Fox4 and given a studio and airtime on TV. Admittedly not a primary channel. 4. They’ve picked up title sponsor Lonestar Beer along with sponsorships from Proslat, Frankel and Frankel, Eatzi’s, Prosper Ford, Earlybird CBD, etc. 5. No Puppet Productions now distributes NINE independent podcasts through their network which diversifies their reach allowing them to maximize their advertisements.
All of these are facts about the show you can verify with a quick search. As for Jake I just hope he’s ok and comes back happy.
When I was 12, I got paid by grandpa to mow his yard. That didn’t make me his employee. Some widdle boys need to learn the difference between a W2 & a 1099. In one case you are an employee (maybe even a direct employee) & in the other you are just some dude who got a check. Getting a couple of hundred bucks (or less? More?) and being responsible for your own tax payments is not being an employee. The bartenders at Danny’s bar have more rights
I bet telling people you do a podcast called The Dumb Zone is a lot of fun. "Oh but theres also a production company---It's called No Puppet----ok so do you remember the 2016 debate, so on another podcast livestream this guy got super hammered and started yelling this phrase that came from that debate! Of course we made merchandise!"
On anther subject, there is a good article in the DMN about John Blake (semi-) retiring from the Rangers. It is behind the paywall so I am not posting a link. One line from the article
His loud voice became a drop on The Ticket, when he’d finish off interviews with Yu Darvish, shouting “questions in Japanese?”
Danny, I'm telling you, like I told TC: We're not paying you to engage in sosh wars. Let it alone. Instead, and I know this is a crazy idea, focus on your new job. The Investors are counting on you. I am counting on you.
I would say its whoever thought all the adorning love/followers/mentions/clout they received while being a part of The Ticket world would continuously follow them no matter the setting. Here's a list-------
As shown in ‘chines recent reemergence as a widely lauded media personality, as a fill in on IJB, self satisfaction levels are still properly stratospheric.
All too predictable. It's what happens when something is founded upon spite, while being egged on by the fawning of a small but (being charitable here) "passionate" faction of supporters. Add into the mix a few ez cum ez go celeb endorsements, some good old fashioned lawyer manipulation, a desire to be something/someone you're not, and personal histories of self aggrandizement, thin skinnedness, and a propensity for confrontation. . . . Yeah, buddy. All too predictable. Including what's just around the bend. And say, doesn't this all sound familiar? And isn't it interesting that this almost dejavu convergence is coming to consist of many of the very same constituents? Very particulat players who all share a singular commonality.
The fix was in, gents. And was from the get go -- though this wasn't the OG end point. No. That was pissed away by the first cadre of gamblers. Pro Tip: When betting on oneself, one is best served in the mid, much less the long, run by not spending one's winnings like a drunken sailor ashore after months at sea.
Enjoy the 'sodes while you have 'em. Indeed, have a 'sode on me. My treat.
"Tried to warn you about Chino and Daddy G / But I can't seem to get to you through the US mail"
The post seems to convey a deep skepticism about a situation or movement that appears to be built on negative motivations, such as spite and self-interest, rather than genuine purpose. The author critiques a small but vocal group of supporters who are overly enthusiastic, possibly blind to the flaws in what they support.
The mention of celebrity endorsements and legal manipulation hints at superficiality and a lack of authenticity, suggesting that the movement lacks a solid foundation. The author expresses concern about the motivations and backgrounds of the key players involved, implying that their histories of self-aggrandizement and confrontational behavior will inevitably lead to failure or conflict.
The phrase “the fix was in” suggests that the outcome was predetermined, indicating a lack of genuine competition or fair play. The reference to “the first cadre of gamblers” implies that early decisions led to a downfall, warning against reckless or impulsive actions—especially when betting on oneself.
The call to "enjoy the 'sodes while you have 'em" serves as a bittersweet acknowledgment that the current situation may be fleeting, hinting at an impending downturn or crisis. The quote at the end suggests a sense of frustration and a feeling of being unheard, perhaps indicating that warnings about the situation have been ignored.
Overall, the post reflects a cynical view of a cycle of predictability driven by flawed motivations, inviting readers to reflect on the consequences of such actions and the inevitable outcomes that follow.
The ratings update used to bring so much glee from the apparent downfall of the Lil' Ticket from the 69ers, on the reddit page. Ghost town all the sudden "California tumbles into the sea"
Not the full drop. Merely a drip. The Drop, well that arrives May-ish '25.
Here a 'sode, there a 'sode, everywhere a 'sode, 'sode Suddenly a subbie has no place to go Boys are now a Boy, 55 and holdin' fast The Bubble's burst! The Hive has turned! All things must pass
Thanks for the correction, Wut. But I still stand by my claim that it's a bad attempt at trolling. While I've no idea what a "lost episode" could mean. Especially for a pod that's a bit and change over a year old. Regardless, Jake isn't returning to The Ticket.
The Winding Down has begun. Jules has some killer DSLs. The Sweet Spot's numbers through Year One are better than The Hang Zone's during the same timeframe. Why does Danny always wear a hat of some sort now? Do these jeans make me look fat? As Corby ages, he looks more and more like Bruce Lee. The poor air quality has wreaked havoc on my allergies. I'm still awaiting for the threatened-I mean promised-return of Cirque du Sirois. Won't you be my neighbor? I think making sex is unnatural for Junior. The older I get, the more I dig Indian chicks. Again, do these jeans make me look fat?
Overall, the post reflects a light-hearted and somewhat irreverent culture among The Ticket’s fans, filled with in-jokes, personal anecdotes, and playful critiques of the station's personalities and programming.
Whenever I take medicine for one my headaches, I usually take aspirin. After that I like to enjoy the Bloomberg Television channel. But then I get sad sometimes because I don't have enough money to invest in Nvidia but specially bitcoin, which I think has a better long term outlook. Then there was once this girl I knew from junior high but now we're a lot older. She's married and my wife is considerably older than I am. I tried to begin an affair but she told me she was not interersted in having an affair with me. I guess that was OK. That way I didn't have to be duplicitous and can still look my considerably older wife in the eye. But there's also the presenter on the Bloomberg Television channel with the bulldog shaped jawline and the predilections for mauve colored dresses. I found a recipe online for a smoothie.
Congratulations to the splendid Jean Smart.
ReplyDelete(1) I join Confessors who have expressed good wishes to Jake Kemp and his loved ones if his recent absence is related to any personal matter. If the reason has been clarified, I missed it, so maybe I'm too far out of the loop on matters related to Dan and Jake. In any case, best wishes to him and his.
If the speculation of a return to The Ticket turns out to be true – it seems rather unlikely, but stranger things have happened in Da Medias – I would welcome that. I would, however, regret any departure of Sean Bass or David Mino or Matt McClearin or anyone else whose place he might take, none of whom, in my opinion, have underperformed in the roles they have been asked to perform.
(2) I've been out of town most of the summer and have lost track of the comings and goings of former Ticket personnel. In general, "new media" doesn't seem to be any more forgiving than old media, nor any more interesting.
As far as Dan + Jake + lawyers as crusaders against noncompetes is concerned, my uncomprehensive review of news items reveals that (1) one court has declined enjoin the Federal Trade Commisision's broad banning of them (presumably similar to what the lawyers have asked the National Labor Relations Board to do), (2) two have preliminary enjoined enforcement of the rule, which pretty much means defeat in those courts for the D+J+L position, and (3) the judge in the Cumulus lawsuit very strongly hinted that she would rule against D+J+L on invalidation of the noncompete if the case were not settled. (But D+J+L still win on the factual issue, i.e., Cumulus had not proved the injury necessary to get an injunction against D+J for violation, which is the more important victory in the case.) So the courts are trending away from the D+J+L position on the validity of noncompetition covenants. I urge law-watchers who are following this more closely to correct the foregoing.
Personally, I don't think the law is going to end up looking like D+J+L have argued for. Even if the issue is not resolved in the lower courts (it may be resolved at the Supreme Court, which in its current incarnation would almost certainly rule against D+J+L's position), Congress will not allow this kind of regulatory lawmaking, especially as this particular exercise of power would be a blow to federalism (shared authority between the US and the states).
(3) I never thought I'd miss the old Kars-for-Kids jingle, but then I heard the new one.
(4) I'm going to step up my vigilance on comments I don’t understand or that cheese me off, which, because I am getting dumber and crankier, means more deletions.
PS: It would be helpful if commenters would use fewer initializations. While most of them are clear enough, some are not and all of them slow down the reading.
ReplyDeleteThat is, they slow down my reading.
Thank you.
Here's a fairly recent post summarizing the three federal court cases mentioned in my comment above.
ReplyDelete(If anyone knows how to post URLs as active links, please advise.)
https://ogletree.com/insights-resources/blog-posts/another-federal-district-court-enjoins-ftc-noncompete-rule-but-the-rules-effective-date-still-looms/
As unlikely as it would seem, there is a genuine rumble about Jake returning to TT. And not only Jake's.
ReplyDelete“Genuine rumble” lol
Delete0% Jake returns to the ticket. They would have not relaunched the Dumb Zone, on a new platform with a new price point if that were the case. That would destroy the good will and good vibes they’ve worked so hard to establish over the last year. That would be the ultimate bait and switch.
ReplyDeleteI think it’s pretty clear Jake is going through some personal issues and will be back in due time.
No Ragrets, Jake!
DeleteCorby from the top-rope! Enews about Diddy-
ReplyDelete-who doesn't love a nice Freak-off? Thats too bad that radio station collapsed, this would be a perfect tie in for them! They missed out!
& On FM!
-plus a nice little Seacow metal bats drop *chefs kiss.*
Very DZ handle there, GashMaster. Regardless, I agree with you, and I'll go one further: There is no way Jake, Dan, Danny, Julie, or Sirois ever again work for any Cumulus entity, much less The Ticket. Meet the New Boss is yet another in a long line of wannabe agents of chaos. No Puppet has a long way to go. Not sure if they'll get there, but I respect that they're trying. As Plainsman hints at, and I agree with, it matters not the platform and/or business model; the only things that do matter are appeal and finding your audience and growing it. I've zero business savvy, so I'm not going to pretend otherwise. I'd like to think No Puppet has competent advisors who've built up and had success with such an enterprise, and that soon we'll see growth. What I will say is that the numbers have been fairly static for a year, and they seem to be only adding ex-Ticket/Ticket adjacent talent. As one who wants to see No Puppet do well, it's a bit concerning. How will these moves garner a larger audience? Seems like more preaching to the choir than not. Plus, most of the new names have already failed to amass an audience on a far larger stage.
ReplyDeleteWhatever happens, props to them for giving it a real go.
Nobody who left KTCK will ever be back on the air at KTCK. Especially those who went to a competitor.
ReplyDeleteNot sure why people are speculating this about returning to TT when Jake's personal well being is the concern here. His absence seems to be very personal and not career related.
DeleteNot sure if you're being a virtue signalling troll or genuine. In charity I'll assume the latter. In the previous thread, there were numerous claims that Jake was returning to The Ticket.
DeleteI appreciate your grace and charity and your kindness in the way you are handling your site responsibilities in the role of "virtue signaling" arbiter. My non trolling comment above is related to the fact that the evidence points towards a serious personal matter not involving career path. I could be wrong but time will tell. In other words there is no reason to think as many have pointed out that this has anything to do with going back to TT.
DeleteSo it was the former, after all.
DeleteThere are also numerous claims that JFK Jr is going to rise from the dead to become President of the United States
DeleteI doubt any of the expats would be hired at the Ticket at this point. TC did burn his bridges pretty completly when he left for his PD gig and he was brought back. He still had Bob, Dan and maybe the OGW in his corner to fight for him. I'm not sure that any who left has anyone on the staff that would have their back at this point. The only way I can see it happening is if there were some sort of winfall money wise to Cumulus, then I'm sure everything could be forgiven.
ReplyDeleteSorry but the fact that anyone is giving any real consideration to the possibility of Jake returning to the Ticket is patently absurd. The reasons for this are obvious and were eloquently explained by others in the last thread. In no world does TT mgmt want or need him back.
ReplyDeleteYou guys are underestimating the brilliance of Jeff Catlin. He has been running the Ticket for decades and knows what to say and do to get Jake back in the fold. Trust in the Cat Man (real good dude too!)
ReplyDeleteThey don't read this. Any of it.
Delete#Cult #HiveMentality #Parent'sBasement
cat emails Jake Kemp contract to Cumulus Corporate.
ReplyDelete“Didn’t we sue this MF’er less than 2 years ago? Uh, no way are we approving this.”
Cat fought for Jake because they are friends and Cat supports his people. You shall see…
ReplyDeleteI know you. Have it your way at. . . . . . initials. Aren't you busy admin'n the other place? Then again, MTC has far more traffic than your baby, doesn't it.
DeleteDon't you admin for the other one? What initials come before "Broiler" and "Fish"? Yeah. It's you.
DeleteIt’s telling that people are talking way more about the people off the Ticket than on the Ticket…
ReplyDeleteIf someone on the ticket took a leave of absence and no listeners knew why, same thing would happen
DeleteSome idiot said Jake would be back. There’s no coming back . They made a decision. And they have to deal with that decision .
ReplyDeleteTotally agree. I suggested as much by saying that the evidence points to a serious personal matter and concerned for his well being and was accused of virtue signaling. There are a few cunning linguists who have correctly pointed out that the act of accusing someone of virtue signaling is in itself a form of virtue signaling. If I am wrong and he returns to the Ticket I will withdraw my virtuous concern for his well being.
DeleteIt was a midday show. It wasn’t that great. Why do we act like it was an earth-shattering moment ? It wasn’t .
ReplyDeleteI know there is plenty of sanctimony to go around about how Jake doesn't owe anyone an explanation, but if I were a paying customer of a year-old podcast still fully in the "support us just because" phase, I would want a reason why he's not there. Doesn't have to be specific, but something is warranted. I feel like there is an element of Gordon Keith mystery man cosplay happening here.
ReplyDeleteTotally agree. People are paying for Dan & Jake....and Blake. If your business is fully dependent on people paying for your content, maybe just a quick note to those subscribers. There's no doubt that him being gone is in the 'Personal' category - I just think him putting something out there would have been better than Dan's "let the speculation begin" comments
DeleteMy guess, and I hope I'm right because it would mean everything in Jake's world is OK, is that he's on vacation. Two weeks is pretty standard vacay timeframe. As far as the mystery surrounding it and the fact that Dan has even trolled it a bit goes, that falls right into line with TDZ total continuation of THZ (except they can cuss!). Dan's out for 4 days to take his daughter to college, and how is it put? Oh yes, he's been suspended by Dan Bennett for something said on-air. Jake's turn for his staggered vacation. Hey everyone, Jake's holding out for more money (well he did do that). The bit gets double downed upon when the sosh starts floating theories. I'm thinking (and hoping) that's what's happening here. Jake will return and then it's Dan's two week break.
DeleteIf this is some sort of a parody, then lol. Good one. If not, then lol.
DeleteAptly named, cuz.
DeleteThere is zero chance Jake is merely "on vacation" when he is out at a critical time in the life of the Dumb Zone
DeleteI would have to think whatever it is, is completely involuntary.
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ReplyDelete*and the safety net of the Freak fell through.
DeleteJake would be hosting with Donnie right now, but unfortunately his time with Dan turned a different path. (Dan was leaving, regardless. The Split of BaD / Him staying in middays- he was Done).
What it comes down to is Jake made a grave mistake leaving the ticket and surrounding himself with people like Dan and TC. If Jake had taken head from people like Cat and Bob he would not be in the situation he is in now.
ReplyDeleteThere’s a reason Bob got that promotion not Dan and it’s not exactly hard to understand why. Jake chose to go the antimanagement route.
DeleteYes, Bob is more management friendly than Dan...but he's also way more talented, works harder, and is more of a fit at a station that calls itself SPORTStalk.
DeleteAgreed Nandor. I kinda feel like Dan was just chilling enjoying middays, going through the motions to a degree. Bob was working pretty hard. Then a promotion came up and Bob got it, naturally. Dan then realized there was a reason to work harder.
DeleteI don’t think you listened closely enough to what Dan brought to the table. All the audio stuff and Homer call and whatnot, whether or not you thought it was good, is super labor intensive to produce. Don’t get me wrong, Bob works hard too, but a lot of what Bob brought was doubled up for other work (articles he was writing or research he was doing for Aikman). Bob was a lot more in your face about grinding tape but I would guarantee that Dan worked just as hard (if not harder if just talking about their radio show) as Bob, he was just a lot more subtle about it.
DeleteI was always under the impression that the bulk of the scut work on Dan's produced segments was done by interns.
DeleteKinda thought it was interns too, but don't really know. I never really liked the audio component of their shows. Thought it was a filler. All shows do it to some degree, but I felt like they relied on it too much.
DeleteDan was always verbally abusive to interns and exploited them for content he couldn’t produce himself. Bob seemed like the guy who was kind to the interns and gave them his time and support.
DeleteI tend to agree that Bob is/was the harder worker. I will say though that my brother in law was a BaD radio intern 20 years ago and he said that Dan was by far the nicer one of the two to their interns. Not that Bob was mean, just more ambivalent towards them. Could have changed over the years, but at least back then he much preferred Dan over Bob.
DeleteActually, Dan has been more than a little bit encouraging speculation on Jake's whereabouts. I can't imagine something serious going on and Dan making a bit out of it. Yes, I know, we're talking about the wannabe Andy Kaufmann meets Norm MacDonald. Still, some things you don't joke about. But who the fuck knows. I do know that the tenor of many a comment on DZ reddit rings a sour note. From the price hike to the "non-disclosure" on Jake to adding too many voices to the mix to the quality of the content, while the majority still think everything is gold, there's a growing faction (that's getting louder) that says otherwise. It's to be expected. So it's not as if this burgeoning trend portends a downturn in subs. Again. Who the fuck knows.
ReplyDeleteLove your buns.
And I yours.
DeleteRecall that Jake’s youngest had some fairly serious health issues at a young age. I hope everything works out positively for the guy and his family .
ReplyDeleteOf course. But I can't imagine Dan cracking jokes and fostering speculation if it is about Jake's kid.
Delete● Paid Members
ReplyDelete5,883
Are trying to tell me that yet another enterprise founded on spite is beginning to trend in the wrong direction? No. Way.
DeleteTo use a line from the great Karen Carpenter, "We've only just begun."
They're switching to substack bruv. patreon numbers will eventually go to 0
DeleteExcept for the inconvenient fact that the number of Stackers doesn't make up the difference of the Patreon subs lost. Not even close. Sorry 'bout that, scruhttie.
DeleteHow would you even know that? I don’t think Substack releases paid subscriber numbers. And DZ has over total 8,000 Substack subscribers. I switched from Patreon to Substack (both paid)
DeleteIf that's so, then how do you know they have over 8k Substack subs?
DeleteIf you meant 8k Patteon subs, then you're lying.
DeleteI looked at their Substack page and that’s what it says, “8,000+ subscribers”. But it doesn’t differentiate between paid and free subscribers.
DeleteHere's the facts - TDZ subscriber numbers have dropped since 9.26.23....no matter platform change. A big drop off probably did happen in the last few weeks.
ReplyDeleteThis was not the plan. This is full on "Wild Card, Bitches!"
Maybe they break on through to the other side.
Maybe, and more than likely, they don't.
Major props for giving it a go, though!
September 2023 they had 5,277 paid Patreon subscribers. As of this moment they have 5,886 paid Patreon subscribers plus some number of paid Substack subscribers. 5,886 is greater than 5,277. Your comment that the have lost subscribers since September 26, 2023 is incorrect.
DeleteI don’t think you understand what a fact is. Either that or you don’t know how to compare numbers and see which one is higher.
DeleteActual Facts
Delete1. They’ve moved to a platform that will take less of a percentage of their subscriptions and actually courted them to sign them on. With the higher subscription rate and less percentage taken they don’t need as many subscribers to make equal or more money. Substack doesn’t do that if they’re failing on Patreon.
2. They’ve hired Danny, Julie, Jasmine and Rob all as direct employees. You can’t do that without cash flow.
3. They were also courted by Fox4 and given a studio and airtime on TV. Admittedly not a primary channel.
4. They’ve picked up title sponsor Lonestar Beer along with sponsorships from Proslat, Frankel and Frankel, Eatzi’s, Prosper Ford, Earlybird CBD, etc.
5. No Puppet Productions now distributes NINE independent podcasts through their network which diversifies their reach allowing them to maximize their advertisements.
All of these are facts about the show you can verify with a quick search. As for Jake I just hope he’s ok and comes back happy.
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DeleteThey are being paid by No Puppet Productions to do their jobs. Certainly you don't dispute that
DeleteCash Sirois helping carry the weight on DZ podcast today. Too bad he has a bag.
ReplyDeleteWhen I was 12, I got paid by grandpa to mow his yard. That didn’t make me his employee. Some widdle boys need to learn the difference between a W2 & a 1099. In one case you are an employee (maybe even a direct employee) & in the other you are just some dude who got a check. Getting a couple of hundred bucks (or less? More?) and being responsible for your own tax payments is not being an employee. The bartenders at Danny’s bar have more rights
ReplyDeleteLet's be clear then---you think that Rob Chickering is getting a few hundred bucks to work for No Puppet Productions?
DeleteThey literally talked about getting insurance stuff figured out before they hired Danny. 1099s don’t get insurance.
Delete"Castles made of sand fall into the sea, eventually" --James Marshall Hendrix
ReplyDeleteHi, Jasmine.
I bet telling people you do a podcast called The Dumb Zone is a lot of fun.
ReplyDelete"Oh but theres also a production company---It's called No Puppet----ok so do you remember the 2016 debate, so on another podcast livestream this guy got super hammered and started yelling this phrase that came from that debate! Of course we made merchandise!"
Specially when you're 55.
DeleteMarch 2025: The Investors give No Puppet notice that effective immediately they are pulling all funding.
ReplyDeleteJuly 2025: Jake is running the family business, Dan is working mornings in Dubuque.
In the end the Cat Man is proved the winner!
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DeleteShit, can you edit? That was 10 years ago that I built that site.
DeleteSeems like someone's gotsa case of the grumpies.
DeleteI drove bus.
I build sites.
So easy.
Too easy.
On anther subject, there is a good article in the DMN about John Blake (semi-) retiring from the Rangers. It is behind the paywall so I am not posting a link. One line from the article
ReplyDeleteHis loud voice became a drop on The Ticket, when he’d finish off interviews with Yu Darvish, shouting “questions in Japanese?”
ET P1
"None of the guys go steady 'cause it wouldn't be right / To leave their best girl home now on Saturday night"
ReplyDeleteThat's what it's all turned into.
Dan says Jake will be back October 7th.
ReplyDeleteAll's well.
DeleteSo who is the biggest failure / loser from the people who left / got fired the past 4-5 years or so?
ReplyDelete…or is this a rerun?
DeleteDanny, I'm telling you, like I told TC: We're not paying you to engage in sosh wars. Let it alone. Instead, and I know this is a crazy idea, focus on your new job. The Investors are counting on you. I am counting on you.
DeleteI would say its whoever thought all the adorning love/followers/mentions/clout they received while being a part of The Ticket world would continuously follow them no matter the setting.
DeleteHere's a list-------
Good stuff, Fahey. How are your eyes?
DeleteThe ones that now drive Uber.
DeleteStill doin' Mavsy things, 'chine? Ever been asked by The Boys to do a 'sode?
DeleteAs shown in ‘chines recent reemergence as a widely lauded media personality, as a fill in on IJB, self satisfaction levels are still properly stratospheric.
DeleteIs a breathy, basso, unintentionally funny because he's trying to sound sexy, "Oh hell yeah" still a part of his arsenal?
DeleteWho is the least talented person to ever work at the Ticket?
ReplyDeleteLogan Gourley faded into bolivia after being fired by Craigery Graig Junes Jr Miller
ReplyDeleteLogan's love of self is in itself a form of self hatred.
DeleteI haven't listened to The Ticket in years, but faded into Bolivia is a great line. Who said it?
ReplyDeleteMy dad, Earl.
DeleteMike Tyson
DeletePosted September ratings over there.
ReplyDeletehttps://www.reddit.com/r/theticket/comments/1ftqebb/september_2024_ratings_update/
Good bounce back month for The Ticket, especially the two midday shows. Fan had a solid month as well.
Thank you, Peter. Hoping TKA will be on this Sat.
Delete@MrGiggles: Sorry, no - SMU football instead.
DeleteAccording to the dumbzone reddit, the fans are beginning to split into "anything for the boys" and "not doing charity" lol
ReplyDeleteAll too predictable. It's what happens when something is founded upon spite, while being egged on by the fawning of a small but (being charitable here) "passionate" faction of supporters. Add into the mix a few ez cum ez go celeb endorsements, some good old fashioned lawyer manipulation, a desire to be something/someone you're not, and personal histories of self aggrandizement, thin skinnedness, and a propensity for confrontation. . . . Yeah, buddy. All too predictable. Including what's just around the bend. And say, doesn't this all sound familiar? And isn't it interesting that this almost dejavu convergence is coming to consist of many of the very same constituents? Very particulat players who all share a singular commonality.
DeleteThe fix was in, gents. And was from the get go -- though this wasn't the OG end point. No. That was pissed away by the first cadre of gamblers. Pro Tip: When betting on oneself, one is best served in the mid, much less the long, run by not spending one's winnings like a drunken sailor ashore after months at sea.
Enjoy the 'sodes while you have 'em. Indeed, have a 'sode on me. My treat.
"Tried to warn you about Chino and Daddy G / But I can't seem to get to you through the US mail"
The post seems to convey a deep skepticism about a situation or movement that appears to be built on negative motivations, such as spite and self-interest, rather than genuine purpose. The author critiques a small but vocal group of supporters who are overly enthusiastic, possibly blind to the flaws in what they support.
DeleteThe mention of celebrity endorsements and legal manipulation hints at superficiality and a lack of authenticity, suggesting that the movement lacks a solid foundation. The author expresses concern about the motivations and backgrounds of the key players involved, implying that their histories of self-aggrandizement and confrontational behavior will inevitably lead to failure or conflict.
The phrase “the fix was in” suggests that the outcome was predetermined, indicating a lack of genuine competition or fair play. The reference to “the first cadre of gamblers” implies that early decisions led to a downfall, warning against reckless or impulsive actions—especially when betting on oneself.
The call to "enjoy the 'sodes while you have 'em" serves as a bittersweet acknowledgment that the current situation may be fleeting, hinting at an impending downturn or crisis. The quote at the end suggests a sense of frustration and a feeling of being unheard, perhaps indicating that warnings about the situation have been ignored.
Overall, the post reflects a cynical view of a cycle of predictability driven by flawed motivations, inviting readers to reflect on the consequences of such actions and the inevitable outcomes that follow.
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DeleteThe ratings update used to bring so much glee from the apparent downfall of the Lil' Ticket from the 69ers, on the reddit page. Ghost town all the sudden
ReplyDelete"California tumbles into the sea"
The steel toe boot just dropped!
ReplyDeleteWhat do you mean by that Allen Edmonds? Did something happen?
DeleteJake is back at The Ticket.
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DeleteNot the full drop. Merely a drip. The Drop, well that arrives May-ish '25.
DeleteHere a 'sode, there a 'sode, everywhere a 'sode, 'sode
Suddenly a subbie has no place to go
Boys are now a Boy, 55 and holdin' fast
The Bubble's burst! The Hive has turned!
All things must pass
Ain't no fun when the rabbit got tha gun.
ReplyDeleteIt’s all happened before… and it will happen again…
ReplyDelete"Jake is back. Jake is back. Jake is back Jake is back Jake is back. Jake is back." Now if we can only retrieve Norm.
DeleteSeeing how Jake was on TDZ today, I don't think --no, I know- he's not returning to The Ticket. It wasn't even a good troll.
ReplyDeleteThat was an old “lost episode” according to dumb zone Reddit
DeleteThanks for the correction, Wut. But I still stand by my claim that it's a bad attempt at trolling. While I've no idea what a "lost episode" could mean. Especially for a pod that's a bit and change over a year old. Regardless, Jake isn't returning to The Ticket.
DeleteJake has been on the ticket this whole time, aka Cruz in aledo
ReplyDeleteNever has the adage "Be careful what you wish for, you might get it" been more apt than with The Five.
ReplyDeleteAnything founded, at heart, on spite, will turn in on itself.
"Livin' like a gypsy queen n a fairy tale"
ReplyDeleteThe Winding Down has begun. Jules has some killer DSLs. The Sweet Spot's numbers through Year One are better than The Hang Zone's during the same timeframe. Why does Danny always wear a hat of some sort now? Do these jeans make me look fat? As Corby ages, he looks more and more like Bruce Lee. The poor air quality has wreaked havoc on my allergies. I'm still awaiting for the threatened-I mean promised-return of Cirque du Sirois. Won't you be my neighbor? I think making sex is unnatural for Junior. The older I get, the more I dig Indian chicks. Again, do these jeans make me look fat?
Overall, the post reflects a light-hearted and somewhat irreverent culture among The Ticket’s fans, filled with in-jokes, personal anecdotes, and playful critiques of the station's personalities and programming.
DeleteThis is the exact reason why my nephew got busted for cheating. AI shit is, um, shit.
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DeleteThis is going anger a certain small but extremely vocal faction:
ReplyDeletehttps://www.dallasnews.com/sports/2024/10/03/qa-with-the-tickets-matt-mcclearin-how-a-winding-radio-road-led-back-to-dallas-airwaves/
P-Man is going to get tendonitis deleating all the BS post from the "clever funny" folks.
ReplyDelete"I award you no points and may God have mercy on your soul."
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ReplyDeleteWhenever I take medicine for one my headaches, I usually take aspirin. After that I like to enjoy the Bloomberg Television channel. But then I get sad sometimes because I don't have enough money to invest in Nvidia but specially bitcoin, which I think has a better long term outlook. Then there was once this girl I knew from junior high but now we're a lot older. She's married and my wife is considerably older than I am. I tried to begin an affair but she told me she was not interersted in having an affair with me. I guess that was OK. That way I didn't have to be duplicitous and can still look my considerably older wife in the eye. But there's also the presenter on the Bloomberg Television channel with the bulldog shaped jawline and the predilections for mauve colored dresses. I found a recipe online for a smoothie.
ReplyDeleteNew post and red. Deleting like crazy.
ReplyDeleteBig Gulps, huh?
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