Wednesday, January 23, 2019

Change is Good


As we approach the 25th Anniversary of The Ticket and this year's TicketStock, I've been thinking of what I should put in this space to commemorate it.

I couldn't think of anything.

I don't have a lot of interest in Top Ticket Moments for some reason, astounding and entertaining as many of them have been.

I've been listening to The Ticket since 2004, the year I arrived in Dallas -- 15 years.  The singular fact about The Ticket during that period -- and before -- is that it hasn't changed much.  With a few changes, some of which occurred very early on, it's been the same hosts in the same time period for all those years.  Amazing, and certainly a reason for its continued success.

But The Ticket has changed, sometimes in subtle, gradual ways.  I was hoping to come up with three, but I've settled on two:

(1)  The Ascendance of The Musers and Craig "Junior" Miller.   The shows have never been ranked, but in my early years of listening I would have said, if asked, that The Hardline was the quintessential Ticket show and certainly the one most closely identified with the station.

I think that has changed not because The Hardline has declined -- I don't think it has, contrary to the views of some Confessors -- but because The Musers have continued to grow and improve.  "The Musers" is now the most prominent and celebrated show on the station and I would say that even if the ratings didn't bear me out.

And I think the rise of The Musers is because of the rise of Junior Miller, the Fred Astaire of The Ticket.  When I began listening, George Dunham was "The Commander."  You don't hear that much any more.  Instead, Craig Miller is the Judge and Lord High Executioner for station controversies, and the creator of "tiers" to rank the relative prominence of persons appearing on the station.  He is the most prominent host on The Ticket, eclipsing Mike Rhyner and even his podnuh George Dunham.

(George -- love the guy, but there came a period some years back where his interest level clearly waned.  I don't know if it was because he was building a house or building a band, but there were some segments where he simply wasn't ready to broadcast, and you could hear Junior's irritation.  Not really a knock on George -- he's still great -- but not the station leader he once appeared to be.  (And his occasional unpreparedness seems to have abated in recent years.))

(2)  The Growing Prominence and Quality of the Junior Varsity.  I credit Jeff Catlin for hiring and showcasing down-tier talent.  Yes, there have been some flameouts, some misses, some jerks, and some who just flat failed to launch, but by and large the non-daily-host on-air people are very good and getting better and better.  There's not enough room in the broadcast day to give some of them the prominence they deserve.  Too bad you can't sell enough advertising off hours to give some of these guys (and Julie) their own shows other than on weekends.  (Or can you -- while leveraging the broadcast day on the Ticket Top Ten is genius, could you do better with a live Work-in-Progress from 7-10 nightly?) 

I hesitate to name names for fear of leaving out some top-quality folks, but in no particular order, there's Justin Montemayor, Mike Sirois (honorable mention -- Cash), Jake Kemp, Sean Bass, Ty Walker, Julie Dobbs, David Mino.   (I don't count Danny Balis as JV, but he's kind of equivalent to Jake on BaD, so you could list him here too.)  Dave Lane as a cameo JV.    Hey, I'm sure I'm leaving out some real good up-and-comers, so help me out here in the comments.

(3)  The Hardline?  I said I was going to do two, but of course the show with the most wrenching change during my listening history has been The Hardline, with the separation of Greg "The Hammer" Williams a decade or so back.  Of course that's a "change," but here I'm going to offer a view which I know will be at odds with those of some long-time listeners:  I think The Hardline is in some ways a better show now than it was when HeeHoo was on it.

Yes, it is true that Mike's interest has declined and he doesn't pay a whole lot of attention sometimes.

Yes, it is true that Mike allows Corby and Danny to browbeat him when he should be putting them firmly in their respective places.

Yes, it is true that Corby is a mic hog.

Yes, it is true that the lack of show prep can verge on disrespect of the P1.

But for all that, I listen.  And I laugh more at The Hardline than at any of the other shows.  I've said it before:  Corby Davidson is the Howard Cosell of The Ticket -- he'll irritate the living bejeebers out of you, but still you tune in and (usually) don't tune out.  And I and other Confessors have observed how good he can be when he's away from the nurturing biosphere of the who-cares Hardline.

I was tired of Hammer's ignorant redneck act before he got the heave-ho, and his various issues were plainly affecting his broadcasting long before he crashed and burned.   I'll punch out on Corby and Danny from time to time (Mike isn't present or flavorful enough to excite the punch-out finger much anymore, although he's still a mesmerizing broadcaster when he's engaged -- that is, when he's got a subject that really interests him, or with a co-host who engages him), but for me, The Hardline is great entertainment and better than it was 15 years ago.

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How has The Ticket changed for you?



79 comments:

  1. I'd be much more inclined to discuss the rise of BaD Radio. It still astounds me that you give them so little of your ear listening time. They are clearly the best show on the Ticket: best prepared, most relevant, most knowledgeable, best chemistry, best blend of serious sports chops and comedic relief.

    All hail BaD

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  2. The number one Ticket moment over the past 25 years is the way that they handled 911 and 2nd should be the whole Greggo fiasco.

    You say that change is good so why not inflict some change on the Hardline and get them out of there comfort zone (ill prepared). If they are not willing to change the on-air staff around to make a better product then change the producers around. Switch Danny and Jake.

    I am on the edge of the demo that they covet and try to tune into the Hardline but whenever I do I find that they chase me away after a few minutes of listening.

    I do agree that Craig is the #1 Cop at the Ticket right now.

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  3. Surly, I know BaD has its partisans, but in my judgment while it is a very good show that I listen to every chance I get (and in fact, I have been able to listen more in the last few months), it really has not changed much at all. Jake's participation has noticeably improved the listening experience, but -- and I'm going to get some blowback on this one -- I don't think Bob and Dan have good chemistry at all for reasons I've been meaning to write about and maybe will someday, and here's something else: I like Dan much, much better when he is not with Bob.

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  4. I'm going to generally agree, with the following quibbles:

    1. The Hardline now vs 2004 isn't better or worse; it's just different. It was very different with Greg than with now, and when he was good, it was very good. And that goodness was consistent before it wasn't.

    2. I wouldn't leave out the ascension of Gordon Keith, which kind of peaked 3-4 years ago when he was writing for the DMN. But before that, his website was very active and entertaining. In fact, I first heard about MTC in the comment section of GordonKeith.com. Add in the viral popularity of his interview with Zach Galafanikis, and he really had a prominent role. Based on the quick sellout of his recent public appearance with Dax Shepherd, and it's pretty clear that the Gordo following remains a very strong one.

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  5. OK, there were some typos in that comment. Forgive me. rushing to type this during a quick lunch break.

    excuses, excuses

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  6. I should add that there are other third-party non-JV types who have improved the station: David Moore and Robert Wilonsky on Intentional Grounding and other shows from time to time. David Newbury is very solid. Mike Doocy is a capable fill-in.

    Again, management deserves credit for programming these guys.

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  7. And a very happy Twenty-Fifth Anniversary this day to The Little One, The Ticket.

    Our Ticket.

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  8. I'll second the notion that I'd much rather hear an additional show after the Hardline as opposed to the top 10. If I'm in the car after 7 I won't even give the little Ticket a chance because I know the Fan is throwing out live content instead of replays.

    I'll second Surly and say that BaD is my favorite thing on the Ticket. Maybe it's the drastic difference of Bob and Dan that draws me in or maybe it's their use of someone younger on the show in recent years (either Jake or TC or Monty, etc.) that gives the show something that every other show on the Ticket lacks. Whatever it is though, BaD is the only show that is drastically better than what the FAN is rolling out, IMO. During the Musers and Hardline I'm constantly switching back and forth to see which segments interest me more.

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  9. Happy 25th birthday to the little ticket! Their car insurance just went down.

    This is about the comment about there not being enough airtime in the day to highlight the 2nd tier talent. Would the Catman ever go to an actual Ticket podcast channel, not a podcat channel with replays, with adverts where some of the 2nd tier talent can hone their chops and he can keep them around?

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  10. Cody, you might already know this in terms of the JV or 2nd Tier talent, Jake and TC have their own It's Just Banter podcast which is pretty entertaining. Look up Blowout Podcast Network and it is on there. I believe Cray Trey has his own video game show on there as well. Also, while he is not with the station anymore, Mike "The Machine" Marshall now works for the Mavs and does a Mavs focused podcast with Jake called The Four Pointer which is great.

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  11. Full disclosure: I’m an old. During the Summer of 1994 I packed up and moved from Chicago to Dallas. I was happy to start the new chapter in my life (new job, new wife) but as I left Chicago I thought I would never hear good radio again. I was such a fan of Steve Dahl and Garry Meier, Jonathan Brandmeier, and especially Kevin Matthews, who were WILDLY POPULAR in Chicago at that time. Like Mike Doocy, I was feeling kinda down that day. But I found the ticket my first day in Dallas, July 24, 1994, and decided I should listen to local Sports talk so I would have something to talk to my customers about. Since then The Little Ticket has been by far the very best radio entertainment known to man. George, Craig, Gordon, Mike- you guys are the best!!! Thank You Ticket!..Tangent

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  12. Tangent: Did you listen to Brandmeier while you were there? I did about 20 Wacky Weenies when I lived there under the name "Lower Wacker Overdrive" with some buddies of mine.

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  13. Yep. Loved Johnny B. And I remember the wacky weenie. The only one that I specifically recall was “Black Magic Johnson” to Santana’s Black Magic Woman. Oh..and “I’m burning a mule”

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  14. I agree with the person whom thinks the founder of this site greatly underrates and under appreciates the greatness of BaD radio. In my estimation, they by far have the best blend of sports chops coupled with irreverent yet somehow in touch with the times humor.
    Great show. Moreover all hail the rise of Bob Sturm as a budding national sports writing/analyst superstar.

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  15. Tangent...You came at the right time. Listened to Ticket today, even Hardline. As much as I've heard alot of these stories, it's still fun. I disagree with Mike tho; I remember Skips klif show as being successful. But something happened after he joined the ticket, he became totally unlistenable. Chuck was good, but only in small doses. The Hardline (Greg and Mike) and the Muser's were the obvious and immediate rock stars.

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  16. If I may add to the comments praising BaD, they are also, HANDS DOWN, the most prepared show on the station. They put the most work into their product. Lots of segments that are PREEEEE PRODUUUUUCED, and it's pretty clear that they take pride in that. They don't switch on the mics and "see what happens" (although I don't mind the Hardline, I laughed soooo hard the other day when Mike started off "Mike's Mind" by saying "well, everyone wants to know what Kyler Murray is going to do" and Corby jumped in and was like "uh, he announced today he's going to the NFL." It's like they don't have the internet). Dan gets his balls busted for being the non-sports guy, but he's clearly sandbagging....he intentionally sets it up for Bob. who then spikes it over the net.

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  17. I'm an old, so I am outside the Ticket demographic. Started listening in 1995 because of the Hardline. Started listening to the Musers after Stern left town, and it gradually became my favorite show; I still try to listen to it every morning.

    Norm's show is greatly improved with the addition of Donovan and the increased involvement of Sirois.

    Bob and Dan are the most prepared show, but they appeal to a younger demographic than me. Bob is too arrogant, and the show overall kisses too much player ass.

    The Hardline? Once Greggo left, I tried to listen. But it has become the Corby and Danny "we're cool" show. I turn off the Ticket after Mike's Mind.

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  18. Have to sign off from the Least Coast. My only hope is is that the Unticket captures this gold in its entirety and into the evening

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  19. Who went to Ticketstock?

    I listened to as much as I could yesterday and enjoyed it. Troy was on fire, couldn't shut the guy up, not that one would want to. Some great stories.

    But please check in and give us reports on your live action.

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  20. Went to Ticketstock yesterday...long lines for the best stuff (hall of fame and side-panels). No whiskey, crappy beer, but it's the Ticket, so still fun and worth doing.

    Dan was in full clown regalia, graciously posing for endless pics. Poor Bob was just trying to make his way in and out of the men's room, but kept getting stopped by P1s wanting to pay their respects. He's a good dude.

    As for Mike, I have lots of affection for him, but when you get him away from baseball, his sports opinions are the very definition of generic. This may be why Corby hogs the mic; his broadcasting partner doesn't have much to contribute on sports topics (again, other than baseball).

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  21. I was there yesterday also. The thing that shocked me the most was the abundance of gray-headed dudes there. The pics I have seen from today show the audience skewing way younger. One of the staff members apologized to us for the long lines to get into the side rooms saying they way underestimated how popular they were and the rooms were too small.
    I did get a kick out of Dallas Gold and Silvers 'special guest."

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  22. Heard Corby say today that had it not been for Howard Stern, he would not be in radio today! So Stern is to blame!!

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  23. Long drive but TicketStock this year was worth it. Enjoyed the exhibits and in particular the TIme Tunnel seminars. I got there at 130PM Friday and snagged one of the last seats in the packed room for the 2PM seminar with the OGWolf and Co. I was also able to meet Norm, Mino, Cat Man of the Americas et al. I was going to ask how he got the suffix, ..of the Americas...but forgot.

    My one complaint is as others noted the room was way too small. After each seminar they emptied the room and you had to get back in a very long line. It was guaranteed you would have to wait 30 minutes and miss the next seminar as the line was too long. If they could have moved out the free pinball machines in the adjacent room, the seminar capacity could have been doubled. Guessing the pinball sponsors, Free Play Arcade would of had a problem with that however. I could have stayed in the TimeTunnel the entire time as very interesting and with no censorship going on.

    Enjoyed the Hall of Fame and amazing looking at the amazing and long gone Ticket Calendars in this Metoo# age.

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  24. Tangent: I wrote and sang "Got a Black Magic Johnson."

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  25. Glad y'all had a great time. Hated to miss it. On to the next quarter-century.

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  26. Doyle King posted on Twitter that his son committed suicide and some friends of his son set up a GoFundMe.

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  27. @TheTrickyKid, I know that Jake and TC have IJB and some of the others have their own podcast shows. I was curious if the Catman would be willing to start a Ticket-run podcast channel so the lower tier talent could get paid by the Little Ticket and also have some on-air experience.

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  28. The video feed from Atlanta is at http://www.ustream.tv/TheTicket if you want to watch your favorite Ticket hosts do their thing

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  29. Hmmmm......getting video but no audio.
    Cumulus......the power of radio.

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  30. It's less than perfect. Audio is back but off by 5 or so seconds.

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  31. Omg...You knew we'd get a how cool am I story from Corby. He's so important that the airport cops said "Hey Cobra, we're gonna give the presidential treatment cuz you're just the coolest thing on the ticket" What a jerk.

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  32. You're the jerk, 732. It was a good story and he didn't big shot it up, either.

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  33. Question? Any idea if Greggo made an appearance with the other alums??? I haven’t heard anything about it.

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  34. Nope. Per his Twitter feed he said he didn't want to make it about him.

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  35. I listened to the Hardline and it wasn't the worst from Corby, but it was the standard humble brag.

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  36. I attended Ticketstock on Friday and will share some thoughts. I attended the Board Operator's Time Tunnel seminar. It featured David Mino, Big Strong Jeremy, Grubes in a return appearance and believe it or not - the originator of drops - Expo! Unless you've listened since the beginning like I have you might not know who Expo is. It was great seeing him again. Believe it or not he's been gone from The Ticket for 17 years and now works as an accountant (like me!). Just this morning I heard Gordo say "Hit the theme Expo" as a throwback reference. Anyway, it was a great discussion about how drops started and how they actually work. As one person pointed out - at most stations the board ops are totally behind the scene but at The Ticket they are very much a part of the show; another thing that makes The Ticket unique. Big Strong Jeremy in particular offered great insight.

    I would have liked to attend more of the Time Tunnel seminars but they had no idea how popular they would be so the rooms were too small to hold everyone who wanted to attend. Maybe next time!

    I ran into Jub Jub in the hall, who was wearing his bet pay off "LeBron Suit". He graciously stopped to pose for a photo with me that I would love to post but don't know how! I thought he actually looked pretty great. A guy standing next to us had the same thought I did - Georgio sort of looked like a grown up Nigel, a character of the great Gordo's we haven't heard in a long time.

    I've been to about a dozen Tickestocks over the years and for the last five consecutive years and this by far was the most crowded. When all the hosts came onto the stage for an all host roundtable at 6 pm and in preparation for the Troy Aikman/Jay Novacek interview at 6:30 there was so many people crammed around the stage it was insane. However, if you were willing to stand back from the stage and view from a distance there was still plenty of room to breathe and you could hear just fine. If you've never been to Ticketstock and want to go - my advice is to take a chair. I have every year and it's well worth it.

    The Troy Aikman interview was fantastic. Even though the Musers interview him on the radio each week, it managed to sound fresh and funny. Troy dropped a few bombs - in particular the first few times he tried listening to The Ticket he thought they sounded like idiots and he turned it off. But after he retired he tried listening again, loved it and is now a huge P-1 and tells everyone he knows to listen. He talked a lot about the Jimmy years, admitting Jimmy was the one who assembled the team and deserved credit for the Super Bowls. Also how it was shocking how the discipline went to non-existent when Jimmy left and Barry arrived. One particular funny moment was when Dan McDowell in his clown costume asked his first question, Troy looked at him with a funny look on his face and said "you must have lost a bet". Hilarious.

    It was a great Ticketstock - lots of free stuff and things to look at, and great entertainment. I did not come back Saturday so I missed the Time Wasters this year for the first time in a long time. Their show is posted on Twitter but it's two and a half hours long so I haven't been motivated to pull it up and watch.

    I can't imagine not having the Musers to listen to each morning. I know one day Junior will take his millions and decide to cruise the USA and the show will end as we know it, but I hope that day is along ways off.

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  37. You can email your snaps and I'll post them. I don't believe there's any way of attaching photos to comments.

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  38. Plainsman-
    If we should ever meet in non-anon-real-life, let's talk about the golden years of Chicago radio (80s and 90s), right after we talk about the little Ticket.

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  39. PART I
    Attended both day/nights of Ticketstock. I can't adequately explain in words how great it was and how much the station means to me. Bona fide loop listener D1P1. I've been with these guys and they've been with me through the ups and downs of life. I was 23 when Skip hit the airwaves, now I'm pushing 50. Yes it's true, if you were a listener back in the halcyon days, the station isn't what it once was. But man, neither are you. I had to come to grips with the fact that the old days were my youth and so it all seemed a bit rosier. Now some that rosiness is real. It's like watching your favorite team build its way to a championship. As sweet as that trophy is, in many ways the journey was even sweeter. Momentum is real, Dan McDowell. Even though things have changed, they haven't changed substantially, other than Greggo's departure-which really was a catalyst for change (Corby most likely wouldn't be where he is, and for sure Danny wouldn't). I will say that day one of Ticketstock was very much like going to a classic rock concert sponsored by KZPS. Lot's of Rhyner aged grey ponytails, middle aged dudes like me, very few females, and a small chunk of Millennials. Overall the place was nicely filled. Day two's crowd size was amazing. The place was packed and buzzing. TimeWasters were fantastic and the roundtables were a good time, for sure. Unfortunately I wasn't able to make it into the seminars. As Scott said, the lines were ridiculous and I don't have the patience for that sort of thing. I am wondering if anyone that got to sit in on The Rant and Founding of The Ticket seminars (or any seminar) heard anything surprising or shocking. Specially if one of the guys talked about their future plans or the likes. Anyone who did, it'd be great to hear your tales and insights.

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  40. PART II
    Now while day two was a jammed packed house, the crowd demo didn't really skew any further to the coveted sweet spot. Still a lot of grey, a few more chicks, and a few more Millennials. But not enough to even things out. Thing is, I've been to I'd say 75% of all Ticketstocks. They've been going this way demo wise for a long while now. Full disclosure, I work at two DFW colleges (maintenance). One community, one 4 year state school. I'll say this, over the past 3-4 years if the kids are wearing team threads, it's almost always either NBA or some soccer team being represented. Cowboys or NFL stuff on the 4 year campus is not a common sight. At the community college, where the demo skews more Latin and African American, it's all NFL, NBA, and soccer. MLB barely has a presence on either campus, while the NHL might rear its head twice in a semester. Those who do wear NFL, the rare MLB, and the rarer NHL gear at the 4 year school are usually fraternity guys. Frats, by the way, are in the bigger picture going the way of the dinosaurs. While they are still around, their demo and modus operandi are evolving, quickly. Same goes with the jock culture. From middle school through college to beer leagues, that culture is changing. Those are the very subcultures that have fed The Ticket, FAN, and ESPN lo these years. All of which is to say that at some point over the next 7-12 years, if not sooner, the replacement rate of new listeners for sports talk will continue to dwindle to the tipping point (if it already hasn't). From my first hand experience, kids don't have the same interest in sports as even the last generation did. They don't talk about sports like they used to just a handful of years ago. They sure as heck no longer consume them in the same way, in the same amount, and with the same fervor. AM/FM/Satellite radio means nothing to them. The short of it is, is that enjoy our Ticket (or any of the sports talk stations) while we can. It isn't going anywhere today or tomorrow, but I'd bet the house that there will not be such a thing as sports/guy talk in 25 years--in any form other than a highly specialized, tailored, podcast or whatever format that the individual chooses like his or her energy.

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  41. Oh god! Now Corby thinks he can sing. Puke!

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  42. Dude, why do you even listen? Go find another place for your Ticket confessing.

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  43. It's trolling, 635, don't feed it. Cut off its food supply and water source and it'll go somewhere else and die quietly in a corner, alone.

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  44. Great stuff by LivingInReality and Anon 329, by the way. Reminds me of the old MTC days. One might even say, MTC Halcyon Days of '08-'12.

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  45. As mentioned... in the spirit of Ken Burns. An interesting view.

    https://twitter.com/i/status/1088680760360554496

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  46. @anon 8:19pm, that would be a blessing over listening to Corby sing again! LOL!!

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  47. @Anon 3:29P,
    Sorry but your thoughts on the end of "jock culture" is incorrect, very incorrect.
    The younger white male demographic (college educated or not) has Barstool Sports replace local sports talk stations nearly on a national level. Kids are not "Stoolies" and use Discord and Reddit, opposed to Facebook. Barstool is on SiriusXM, YouTube, and has a subscription Gold service which they use to get their content.

    Unlike you, I have not worked on a college campus in the Metroplex since 2006, but I have worked on other campuses nationally since and those kids are "Stoolies". KTCK The Ticket basically was the model for Barstool Sports more than any station which Barstool founder Dave Portnoy would admit.

    Every sports station has the "Ticket Chick", so does barstool, but Craig's TGOTVSGL...is basically the Barstool Smoke Show.

    The Ticket Fight Night is Barstool's Ruff and Rowdy, a West Virginia-based toughman series which Barstool bought and has taken to Ohio, Kentucky, North Carolina, and this Saturday, Georgia. They sell tickets and put it on PPV.

    The Ticket has The Timewasters, Barstool employees have a cover band called "Pup Punk" and have monetized it by charging cover for their shows.

    Gordo and Corby draw the ire of the NFL during the week before the Super Bowl and are threatened with removal from "Radio Row". Barstool has been officially off "Radio Row" for years and they are not given media access. They create fake credentials to gain access to Opening Night and had two employees escorted out on Monday. Portnoy went to NFL HQ and was escorted out during Deflategate.

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  48. I only caught snippets of broadcasting yesterday, so please, someone detail for us (me):

    (1) What remarkable thing did Dan do that brought him nationwide attention?

    (2) What Super Bowl function did Corby get ejected from and why?

    Thanking you in advance.

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  49. Google "Super Bowl" "opening night" "clown"

    Corby got ejected from Opening Night. He hasn't said why. They're gonna talk about it tonight in the 5:00 hour

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  50. I disagree with you, DA. The subculture you speak of is a rather small minority. It is not large enough to sustain listenership over the long haul. Moreover, you sort of proved my point: they are a niche market that ALREADY seeks out their desired content via alternative (soon to be the dominant) avenues. That's exactly what I said vis-a-vis where things are headed and the sustainability of the format. To the jock culture: It absolutely is changing. Do you not see what is going on around you in the pro levels alone? This change is a bottom up phenomenon. What you see on the pro level is merely scratching the surface where the youth leagues are concerned. Give it another 5 years and you'll be amazed. Again, what you speak of is, in the big picture, a rather small--and dying--subculture. QED

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  51. Please allow me to Pre Say that I am a big fan of the Cobra. I think he’s very funny and I really appreciate what he does for the good puppy dog. My ONLY issues with him is politics and social issues. That being said the Patriot that got him thrown out of the media center was the definition of a lib educated “snowflake”. Corby said stuff that took him out of his “safe place” and made him very a scared. What a wus that kid is! Also, I don’t believe these rent-a-cops can leagally detain him. I kinda agreed with Danny that he was a little too complient. But I guess it coulda gotten the station barred from radio row.

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  52. All he has to do is start singing; they'll let him go.

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  53. Anon 630PM, sounds like a snowflake met a snowflake.

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  54. Seems that though the biggest snowflakes are the anti-snowflake righties who have no tolerance for any social leanings left of the 1950s good ole days. Grow up snowflake righty.

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  55. 5:53: I believe it has been explained many times here that the P1's who are opposed to the leftist musings of Corby and Danny, among others, do not have a problem with them having those leanings, or even with expressing them from time to time. The problem we have is when they (especially Corby and Danny) tend to present them as the only correct way to think.

    I should say "tended", past tense, because it seems to have gotten better over the last year. But before that, it was kind of ridiculous.

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  56. The Patriot player actually did Corby a favor. Had he tried the Challenger bit with a Rams player during their time, the chances of another media outlet listening in on the conversation would've increased. If another station ran with it and aired it Corby may have had to deal with Cumulus management, who is Atlanta based.

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  57. Well said, Pman, but don't feed the troll--delete it.

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  58. I sat there listening yesterday afternoon to the Corby banishment thinking they could still get in more trouble if that audio somehow went viral. There's a big difference in my mind of crude or distateful humor but that was straight disrepectful. If I was the player I don't think i would have went to get security but I absolutely would have walked away. Even if he did think that was funny, what would he have to gain by laughing and joking along. What if the audio went viral and he's laughing at that tragedy? All of a sudden he's the bad guy.

    Those kind of questions/jokes just seem way different to me than repeater man or over cusser or repro-man. But hey they all seemed to get a big laugh out of it and a couple easy segments so what do I know.

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  59. Gordo getting choked up while recounting the visit to the civil rights museum was pretty raw and moving. Did not see that coming. Appreciated it.

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  60. I missed it, but Corby tries to be like Gordon, and he just can't do it. Gordon is funny and his bits normally come off as funny or light hearted. Corby is not funny. And when he tries, he comes across as rude and disrespectful. His wireless bits are a major punch out.

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  61. Technically, it's Ty Walker's bit.

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  62. I gather Corby said the wrong thing to the wrong person, but I still haven't picked up who said what to whom.

    I pretty much hate all live roving-reporter bits (talking to listeners at live events who know who they're talking to doesn't count). At their heart, they basically involve some kind of lie or out-of-place comment (which is a kind of lie) to the person who is being nice enough to speak to the r-r man, and when the victim bites on the lie, sometimes just be courteous, it's supposed to be oh-so-hilarious. Never liked it. At best, cheap; at worst, cruel; always, stupid.

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  63. At media night Corby approached one of the young New England players (Adam Butler?) and started telling him Challenger jokes that had just been recited by Ty Walker on WTDS. Butler finally just walked away from him. A few minutes later security told Corby he would have to leave because someone had complained about him. They even had Atlanta PD on hand for backup.

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  64. That's one of the thing's that irks me about Corby, when he attempts humor. One the absolute most disgusting examples was the Billy Joel bit. He basically stood up in a crowded televised press room, and pointed out to everyone how Billy Joel has morphed into an ugly old Man! Was that supposed to be funny? I guess embarrassing a music legend in front on millions of people is funny to Corby.

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  65. You're calling Alan King ugly?! Take that back right now. How dare you.

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  66. Corby had never heard the word mashugana until Mike used it.

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  67. Actually, I find the Killer misreads a silly essay written by Gordo for the sole purpose of making Killer look stupid while Craig faux giggles like the Russ Martin Show crew to be the worst of all Ticket bits. It was funny, once, several years ago. Not so much now.

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  68. The Hardline, and Corby in particular, have been misusing the Yiddish word "meshuggenah" for years. It doesn't mean "old-timey Catskills Jewish comedian." I wrote a little column on it:

    https://myticketconfession.blogspot.com/2009/12/corby-misuses-meshuggenah.html

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  69. News flash! The Ticket gets A LOT wrong: From current events to misusing/misunderstanding words to misunderstanding or having a puerile understanding of religion (even their own: see Joonz and Catholicism) to historical events to subjects certain hosts position themselves as experts on--e.g., history of rock and roll (hello, Hardline!)--it's a veritable cesspool of misinformation, half-baked, "sounds right to me" b.s. Another news flash, The Musers are every bit as bad as The Hardline. The fact that they don't understand what a Yiddish term means, much less how to employ it, should come as no surprise.

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  70. Oh, I meant to add: And that's why I don't listen to the station for anything other than some laughs, sports talk, and background noise. If I took the hosts' and JVs'thoughts on anything other than goofs and deep questions such as "when are we gonna get some pitching in here" I'd pull what's left of my hair out.

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  71. Yeah. Norm's "I don't believe that's correct" drop needs more of a workout.

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  72. So does Rhyner's 'Oh me, oh my.'

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  73. We need to look at the etymology. Mike used the term because his father used it referring to Jewish comedians on the Ed Sullivan Show. Corby co-opted it because he wanted to be clever.

    So it's Howard's fault.

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  74. Uh, that's not what etymology is...wait, I get it...you're making a funny! Nice one!

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  75. How could I have forgotten Eli Jordan?

    Sorry, Eli, you should have been on the Rising JV list.

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  76. I just heard the Corby (Mariah Carey) Davidson song. Corby trying to be a serious singer was truly cringe worthy.

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  77. 1) I'll echo others' sentiments in that I'm shocked Plainsman doesn't think BaD has changed that much / give them as much listening time. They've improved year-in, year-out and get the 2nd most listening time from me behind the Musers. Absolutely the most versatile, most prepared, and most creative. I typically listen to Musers until after Gordo's corner and then I'll do BaD from 12:15pm Wake'n Jake until 2:45.

    2) Agree with all re: the Joonz.

    3) I don't listen for sports, but Rhyner is absolutely worthless with anything besides baseball or a classic rock segment. I'd be curious to know the last time he was "mesmerizing" as a broadcaster for anything of substance or for any extended period of time.

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