Monday, October 27, 2014

Rare Weird Tense Moment on the Musers


Usually the tension pops up between Bob and Dan, Mike and Corby, Norm and  caller.  The Musers are gentle.

But there was a surpassing strange moment early this morning.

I think it was the throw-away 3-minute segment before the 6 AM ads/Stick It (welcome back, Becca!)/Ticker.

Craig was talking about Robin Williams's children throwing out the first ball at the World Series last night.  Billy Crystal introduced them.  There was apparently also a nice video.  Craig said it was very touching.

Then George said -- and I wish I could transcribe the whole weird exchange, but I'll have to approximate -- "Goes to show you shouldn't do yourself in.  Could have been you out there, showing out the first pitch.  Robin Williams, big Giants fan."

Craig initially seemed to think that maybe George was making a point about not being able to see one's children do something like that, but no.  Craig, smooth operator that he is, didn't miss a beat.  But he missed a fraction of a beat, just enough to create that frisson of anticipation as to how he would react.

He said, just before going to break, "So that was the theme of the World Series last night, don't do yourself in."

George missed the sarcasm.  "Yup," he said.


62 comments:

Clippy said...

George is a big jerk. He's proven that over and over again. The older he gets the worse it gets. He has no empathy.

TC Fleming said...

RAGONK!

Shaggy said...

Clippy,

Are you sure you don't mean Junior? George seems to be on the verge of tears pretty much at the drop of any hint of sad story these days.

James said...

Not sure I understand why George is a jerk on this one. Robin Williams did a very selfish thing. We can acknowledge his greatness as a performer and still point that out.

KP said...

Yeah I think Clippy has George confused for Craig. Craig is devoid of empathy and compassion for the most part. Even George and Gordo give him a hard time about being such a jerk and totally emotionless.

It was surprising though for George to make such a harsh comment about Robin Williams. I heard it this morning and was somewhat shocked it came from him.

Ezekiel said...

Selfish? Spoken like someone that doesn't understand mental illness. Robin Williams fought the darkness for 60+ years and he lost the fight. That doesn't make him selfish. It makes him human. Anyone that thinks he is somehow a coward or selfish clearly doesn't get it.

Anonymous said...

Oh boy. Here comes the "pragmatist realists just telling' it like it is" camp vs. the "how dare you? mental health experts who love to feel good by being non-judgmentally judgmental towards those with differing opinions" camp.

Yeah boy, fun fun fun.

Not.

deezy said...

Dan just now: "Dropping babies across the country and ignoring them is a lot worse than smacking your girlfriend around. That's me."

I understand what he's trying to say, but WOW. I wonder if he'll get a talking-to for this...

James said...

Ezekiel, I do not come from this as someone who has had mental illness, but I do come from the view of the loved ones left behind. Yes, suicide is selfish. Feel free to disagree, but lots of reasonable people do agree with me, regardless of whether they were affected by suicide as I was. And the fact that many reasonable people take that point of view means the label of "jerk" does not apply.

Chris McKinley said...

1st segment of the once great Hardline is about a wedding of a spare part producer that no one cares about. The Ticket is going downhill fast.

I miss the Hammer.

P1 Dan said...

Here's a great photo of the whole Ticket team at Jake's wedding.

http://twitter.com/NotJackKemp/status/526831324309749760

And for those of you that are TC-Haters check out TC in that photo! Boy, does he look like he needs help in life...

DRW1961 said...

Nice to see that Corby pulled out his bestest Dockers for the wedding.

Hell, even Danny put on a suit.

gunther said...

Chris McKinley!!! Was trying to think of that character's name on Sat, just couldn't find it in my head. I had the Chris. Great handle, thanks.

Man, that is a funny bit, not often heard. Kinda gross actually but never fails to leave me rollin on the floor.

cactusflinthead said...

I suppose since the Pman introduced the specters of depression and suicide to the discussion I might as well weigh in too.

I don't think there is a single reason why somebody does it. There are some that are born of selfishness and some of desperation. There is no blanket statement that fits every event.
Exactly how many drugs are there on the market for depression? Any guesses? Is it one size fits all? You and I know there is a laundry list of them and some people run through the entire gamut and never escape the black dog chasing them. Then there are others that get it worked out by talking to Uncle Jimbo or shell out one hundo per visit for ten years. Whatever works for you.
If Jub was seemed flippant about it, I didn't take it that way. Matter of fact they do miss out on a lot. I say this as a survivor that had to clean up some literal and emotional debris. I won't sit in judgement of what went through Robin Williams brain or what compelled him to that end. It is certainly possible that in some cases it is a selfish act in final defiance. It is also possible that for some it is a final act of desperation to end the constant pain. George pointed out that if you ain't there you miss out. That was how I took it.
Damn, it got all heavy and ponderous.
Too much gravitas for a pre-game.

Not Theophrastus, Not Gerhard Schrader, Not David Austin

Anonymous said...

Jerry will be wearing his dressed blues come 8:40 in the AM. Can't wait!

-Not Albrecht von Wallenstein, Not Ernst von Mansfeld, Not Bernard of Saxe-Weimar

Spalding said...

Boys on The Ticket are panicking this morning since the Cowboys roll is over. The Musers refuse to rip Linehan & Garrett for the play calling at the end of the game.

I find it amusing how The Ticket guys are bending over backwards to prop this team up.

They will be exposed even more next week against Arizona.

Jerry's appearance on the sideline was embarrassing.

This is still they same chaotic organization. They've run up a winning record against some really bad teams. They were clearly out coached last night.

Watching Jerry fail brings me much joy.

Shaggy said...

Yeah, Seattle and New Orleans are just horrible.

Celery said...

I agree with Spalding to a point. The Musers really do make it a point to prop up Garrett, going as far as talking about how the players love playing for him. Maybe they do-as long as they are winning. Where is credit really due for this team? Thought they have improved the OL, the OTHER significant change is the addition of some coordinators. The rest is pretty much the same. So is Garrett really doing something better, or should the credit go to his underlings? Probably both. But it seems like last night they went back to the old times. That reminds me of the same old mediocre head coach we have been watching for a while now.

One other point. The Musers are dead wrong about Europe loving the NFL. BaDD, specifically Bob has spent a great deal of time discussing how the EPL has price controls in effect so that the commoner can attend games. NFL hubris will likely keep them from following such practices. Junior talked about how travel to Europe is easy. Sure. But not affordable and not time-efficient.

Jake and Norm today...geesh....less Jake.

Anonymous said...

Was listening to this morning's replay of the post game show. Donnie was half laffin' it up so much I almost flipped on 1080. Is anyone on The Ticket more stubborn than Norm? He clutches onto his self composed narratives for dear life and will not let go no matter how much the facts say he's wrong. Not an hour ago Sirois was in essence calling him out for that very thing. Norm cannot be wrong. It's maddening to listen to. Ditto Donnie's half laffs and eagerness to conform to Norm's narratives. Though I'll admit that as far as the latter part of the Donnie equation goes, I don't blame him. What's the point of disagreeing? Norm will keep at it until you either pretend to agree or stop talking, at which point Norm assumes he's won you over.

Burrito Jimmy said...

Seattle is down and NO can't play away from home. Typical Cowboy homer not looking at the facts.

Great points on Norm. He is stubborn as a mule and will NEVER admit when he's wrong. And, he's a goat.

Anonymous said...

And since Corby and Tony Romo are now buds, don't expect much objectivity from the Hardline if Romo's season goes south.

Craig Rosenrosen said...

No doubt!
My God, the Snake was probably in tears last night when his new buddy Tones Romes was laying on the field for over 2 minutes.
Bet they spend 2 segments talking about what a "warrior" Romo is for coming back out and playing even though Weeden was doing just fine.

Anonymous said...

It feels like the extended, seemingly never ending Cowboys talk really brings out the worst traits in the hosts. Some of the segments just feel so forced and mandatory that they feel like they have to rely on asskissery or drummed up controversy to make them interesting.

Bart Reagor said...

Some of the segments just feel so forced and mandatory...

They are both. Don't you think the hosts are tired of talking about the same things? Their job is to talk Cowboys. They get paid very well for it, and the rest of the time they get to do what they want (to a degree).

Anonymous said...


The greatest tweet twitterer (since the retirement of Chrissy Teigen)sums up the game: http://twitter.com/the_ironsheik/status/526933771816562688/photo/1

Not William Ogilvie of Pittensear; not Gershom Carmichael; not Alasdair Urquhart

Anonymous said...

@Bart Reagor I'd say if the hosts are tired of talking about it then the listener is probably tired of hearing it. I just wish Cat would re-evaluate the 'more is better' mentality when it comes to Cowboys talk.

Microphone Johnson said...

I'd rather pleasure myself with a cheese grater than listen to another Jason Garrett press conference.

Anonymous said...

In some markets, mercilessly ripping the home team is what sports talk is all about.

Do any of us really want Ticket hosts to go after the Cowboys ala The Touchdown Brothers?

Seattle Slew said...

No what we do want is some objectivity which The Ticket has completely lost.

Right out of the shoot The Hardline are downplaying the loss saying "hey man not a big deal. nothing really to talk about".

Several references to Romo by The Snake referring to him casually as "Tony" now that they are good buddies now.

It's becoming painfully obvious that DFW sport talk just isn't that good anymore.

Peter King has offered the only harsh criticism of the Cowboys today.

Gosslein's article on Jerry's ridiculous appearance on the sideline was also great.

Anonymous said...

Microphone Johnson's comment is proof this comment area needs a little "thumbs up" symbol.

Gas Cap Louie said...

This is where The Ticket is in October, 2014....The Hardline has NO problem with Jerry freaking Jones walking up to the head coach in the middle of a game. NO other owner in NFL or any other pro sport will approach their head coach during a game.

This thing is so far away from what made it great....it's sad hearing what this thing has turned in to.

Anonymous said...

I heard plenty of making fun of Jerry on the sidelines this morning w the Musers. And, Musers and Norm disagreed w Romo going back in, and w OT play calling. So there is balance. Plus, the team is 6-2...they are going to lose, but it doesn't mean they suck, so the hosts don't need to tear them apart...yet!

cactusflinthead said...

Did y'all expect them to not talk Cowboys? I heard plenty of questions about play calling. I did not hear knee jerk reactions to a loss. The day when the Ticket stops talking Cowboys is the day it ceases to be on the air. They are and always will be so long as they exist the 800 lb gorilla that demands center stage. I have to go elsewhere to find hockey talk. The single segment afforded periodically on BaDD is not nearly enough to whet my appetite for stick and puck. I can hold my breath until I pass out and they are not going to talk more hockey.

I avoid Cowboy's press conferences no matter the speaker. Jason gives no more information than is absolutely required and Jerry makes me want to hit the dash.

Do you think Monday morning they were talking Texans down in Houston?
Was the Eternally Self Promoting Network talking hockey today or yesterday?

What exactly did you expect them to talk about? As much as I would like to hear somebody on there with some hockey knowledge discuss the goalie situation with the Stars there is no chance of that happening other than a thirty second toss from Sturm. That's it. Am I even going to get that from the Fan or 103.3? Doubly doubtful.

East Texas P1 said...

Just my two cents about Cowboy pre-game shows. I don't normally listen to the Fan during the week but their pre-game show has become my go-to.

Was streaming THL while at work as is my normal practice. Cued up 105.3 @ 5:30 and then switched between the two during commercials. Carried this over into the car on my 50 minute ride home.

I just like getting some of the "back stage" stuff from Brad Sham, Jerruh Jones, Mickey S. and (did not think I would ever say this but) Jessie Holley. In fact, I think JH is better than most of the guys on the Fan.

Usually when I flipped back to the little Ticket, Sturm was going on with a 15 paragraph breakdown of the Cover 2 or some such bullsh.

Okay, punch me in the nuts now.

Anonymous said...

- Corby looks like he went to wedding right after his alter boy session at church
- musers fake political ads this morn pure genius

The Hammer said...

105.3 The Fail is absolutely horrible. They are even bigger Cowboy apologists than The Chicken.

Anonymous said...

Some negative reaction on Twitter this morning to Gordon's musings on the Bible. I know a lot of people label it Fake Deep Gordo, but I give him some latitude on the subject since he is a PK. He's probably got a lifetime of spiritual tug of war.

Anonymous said...

Oh my. Junes and Gordo waxing on science, religion, and the Catholic Church this morning. Pope Francis I claims evolution, the Big Bang Theory, etc., are not in conflict with Church dogma. Both were surprised and pleased with this Pope. This is a case of The Ticket hosts at their absolute worst. Attention, ahem, cradle-Catholic Junes and barstool philosopher/theologian Gordo: Fr. Georges La Maitre is the, no pun intended, father of the Big Bang Theory. Both JP II and Benedict XVI have made these claims prior to Francis. Gordo with the sensitive NPR voice in full effect, Junes espousing cafeteria Christianity, being a Catholic yet having no idea that his own Catechism tells him that scripture can be read on several different levels, including allegorically. Augustine himself says this in both his "Confessions" and "On Christian Doctrine." Please stick to talking private parts, Gordon; Mavis basketball, Junes.

Anonymous said...

Anon 11:42: Like you're above what they were doing, as you toss around 50 cent words on a fan forum...why aren't you teaching theology at Notre Dame instead of posting about a sports radio station? They troll you, you troll us...we are all bottom feeders, but you pretend you're not.

Anonymous said...

Gordon so wants to be like his preacher father it's amazing. Save the preachy, sappy bs for the newspaper column.

Generic Youth Minister said...

Who cares about the big bang theory and evolution? I need help with these dang hand bells....

And friends are friends forever....

Anonymous said...

Would rather listen to this for the next 24 hours straight than another TC ticker or pop on.

https://twitter.com/TicketP1/status/527521702629367808

debased said...

.......o kiss o kiss o kiss o kiss o kiss o kiss o kiss o kiss o kiss........

Anonymous said...

Uh. 1207, I'm not giving out theological points, merely historical ones. Please know the difference before you spout off in an ignorant fashion. And by the way, clever one, I am indeed talking about the sports radio station, i.e., the topic that some of its hosts brought up--directly addressing what they said.

How do you know I don't teach theology?

Why do you think listening to sports talk radio/The Ticket and knowing about other, supposedly "high brow," topics are mutually exclusive? Do you understand this question, or are the words to expensive for you?

Anonymous said...

http://www.grammar-monster.com/easily_confused/too_to.htm

T4 In Rockwall said...

Did I miss something and some posts get deleted on this thread? It seems to be stagnant for over a day, which only happens very rarely.

Colorado P1 said...

Comments were closed. Now they are suddenly open again. Strange.

deezy said...

Comments closed on Wednesday afternoon sometime before 2PM (I remember trying to submit a quick post before walking into a meeting.) I was worried that Plainsman might have been contemplating the future of this thing, as nothing like that has ever happened before that I recall - and comments for the previous (Catman) post were also closed during this time. Comments are again open for that one as well so I'll chalk it up to a system issue of some sort for now.

Anonymous said...

I just assumed it was to give everyone a break from that dumb fight that was about to escalate.

The Plainsman said...

921: Bingo.

Ed Carter said...

Musers had a real genius on the air this morning when Gordo was wireless. Sounded like he was reading his answers straight from the Fox News/Ted Cruz handbook.

Scattershooting continues to be a top 5 segment on The Ticket.

Very lame e-brake candidates today. Jub mailed it in.

Stay hard.

deezy said...

So now, instead of a warning, or deleting comments (or deleting comments with an explanation and veiled warning) we just turn comments off completely for a time? That couldn't POSSIBLY have adverse long-term affects on reader participation. If it becomes SOP, that is.

Norm's Scary Colon said...

Is it a really successful idea to solicit potential body wax customers by referring to them as walking biohazards of stink and disgust? Probably why I'm not in marketing.

I love you madly, Plainsman

Anonymous said...

Anon 1:34: perhaps the words are too expensive for you, because it's "too" not "to" and "high brow" is not two words, it's highbrow.

Anonymous said...

For those of you that didn't hear Gordo's Corner this morning, go back and listen to it. One of his best segments ever.

Shaggy said...

deezy,

Plainsman has suspended comments on threads several times over the years--no big deal to me. The sniping, however, is getting tiresome.

Anonymous said...

FIRE TC! He is ruining our precious 1310 mid days

Anonymous said...

His tickers today have been especially awful.

Unicorn Taint said...

What happened to Rhyner & The Anti-Cowboy Faction? His anti-Cowboy stance was one of the most entertaining things about THL a decade or so ago. Now he just agrees with everything Corby (probably the station's biggest Cowboy homer and BFF of Tones Romes) says. I'm not sure if Mike likes the Cowboys now or just can't muster the energy to dislike them anymore. I'd guess the latter.

James said...

I honestly cannot tell the difference between Jake and TC. Both have a generic presence that fails to distinguish them in any way.

Anonymous said...

Do you even listen to the show? Douche

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